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    Re: Obama: 'They Don't Call Moscow' When There's Trouble in The World

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The only ones that EVER bring up beastiality are conservatives. What is it about bestiality that some cons are obsessed about that they just make up ****?

    Name for me ONE Dem in leadership that wants beastiality legal? Answer is NONE. Typcal radical right-wing BS rhetoric with no substance.

    That is true, it was conservatives who raised the red flag when the progressive liberals tried to legalize beastiality with in the U.S. military when the Obama White House lied to Congress and during a lame duck session of Congress repealed DADT.

    If it weren't for conservatives there would be goats, sheep, chickens and frighten dogs on military bases and on our war ships.

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    Re: Obama: 'They Don't Call Moscow' When There's Trouble in The World

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    That is true, it was conservatives who raised the red flag when the progressive liberals tried to legalize beastiality with in the U.S. military when the Obama White House lied to Congress and during a lame duck session of Congress repealed DADT.

    If it weren't for conservatives there would be goats, sheep, chickens and frighten dogs on military bases and on our war ships.
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    More lies. Just lie after lie after lie after lie after lie.
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    Re: Obama: 'They Don't Call Moscow' When There's Trouble in The World

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
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    More lies. Just lie after lie after lie after lie after lie.
    One of these days you might ge it right Kobie, when I don't know.

    Senate Approves Bill that Legalizes Sodomy and Bestiality in U.S. Military
    December 1, 2011 - 2:55 PM

    >" Senate on Thursday evening voted 93-7 to approve a defense authorization bill that includes a provision which not only repeals the military law on sodomy, it also repeals the military ban on sex with animals--or bestiality.

    On Nov. 15, the Senate Armed Services Committee had unanimously approved S. 1867, the National Defense Authorization Act, which includes a provision to repeal Article 125 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ).

    Article 125 of the UCMJ makes it illegal to engage in both sodomy with humans and sex with animals.

    It states: "(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration, however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense. (b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”..."<

    Senate Approves Bill that Legalizes Sodomy and Bestiality in U.S. Military | CNS News

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    Re: Obama: 'They Don't Call Moscow' When There's Trouble in The World [W:52]

    Why the military still bans sodomy | MSNBC

    Two years into the relatively uneventful implementation of the repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, it may seem strange that gay and lesbian service members are still technically barred from having sex. Article 125 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice however, is technically still in effect. Article 125 makes it a criminal offense to “engage in unnatural carnal copulation” with “another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal.”
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    The reason Article 125 is still on the books at all is because in 2011, when Democrats tried to get rid of it, the religious right howled that the left was making it acceptable for members of the military to have sex with animals. When Tony Perkins, head of the Family Research Council, got wind of the plan he wrote that “in its rush to accommodate the Left, Congress may have inadvertently opened the door to even more perversion.” Asked what they thought of the new proposal to alter Article 125, a spokesperson pointed msnbc to Perkins’ 2011 post, titled, “Bestiality Should Give Leaders Paws.”
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    Repealing Article 125 wouldn’t have stopped the military from prosecuting bestiality because of rules that prohibit “all disorders and neglects to the prejudice of good order and discipline” and “conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces,” according to Breasseale. Nevertheless, the uproar was enough to persuade legislators to strip the proposal to remove Article 125, which was approved by the Senate, from the final version of defense bill.
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    Udall, Gillibrand and Shaheen have taken into account what happened last time around. The new proposal retains prohibitions on “forcible sodomy” and “bestiality,” but alters Article 125 so that it no longer criminalizes gay and lesbian service members’ consensual sexual activity. Even so, it’s not clear that Republicans are any less opposed to altering Article 125 than they were two years ago.
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    Re: Obama: 'They Don't Call Moscow' When There's Trouble in The World [W:52]

    So, in short:

    1. Article 125 was never repealed.
    2. Beastiality still would have been prosecutable under other codes in the UCMJ.

    Ergo,
    3. Beastiality was never "legalized."

    You lied. Again.
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    Re: Obama: 'They Don't Call Moscow' When There's Trouble in The World [W:52]

    The article I posted is from 2013; the only changes to Article 125 since are:

    Articles 120 and 125

    The UCMJ’s Articles 120 and 125 now have mandatory minimum punishments: dishonorable discharge for enlisted service members and dismissal for officers, Kiel said. Article 120 deals with rape and sexual assault upon adults or children and other sex crimes, and Article 125 deals with forcible sodomy. In addition, the accused now must appear before a general court-martial with no opportunity to be tried at a summary or special court-martial, Kiel said.

    A summary court-martial is for relatively minor misconduct, and a special court-martial is for an intermediate-level offense.

    Furthermore, Congress highly encouraged the services not to dispose of sexual assault cases with adverse administrative action or an Article 15, which involves nonjudicial punishment usually reserved for minor disciplinary offenses, Kiel said.

    Rather, Kiel said, Congress desires those cases to be tried at a general court-martial and has mandated that all sexual assault and rape cases be tried only by general court-martial.

    Prior to the fiscal 2014 National Defense Authorization Act, there was a five-year statute of limitations on rape and sexual assault on adults and children under Article 120 cases. Now, there’s no statute of limitations, he said.

    Congress repealed the offense of consensual sodomy under Article 125 in keeping with previous Supreme Court precedent, Kiel said, and also barred anyone who has been convicted of rape, sexual assault, incest or forcible sodomy under state or federal law from enlisting or being commissioned into military service.
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    Re: Obama: 'They Don't Call Moscow' When There's Trouble in The World [W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    For a few days, beastiality was legal in the military.

    Even the Obama White House was embarrassed that they repealed all of Article 125 of the UCMJ.

    Just pointing out it was conservatives who caught the progressive liberals mistake.

    Basically I don't think anyone in the White House or the libs in the Senate took the time to actually read Article 125 before they repealed DADT.

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    Re: Obama: 'They Don't Call Moscow' When There's Trouble in The World

    Well, when you're wanting an easy lay, who do you call? The one you know to be the easy girl or the tough girl down the block who is very selective?

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    Re: Obama: 'They Don't Call Moscow' When There's Trouble in The World

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    That is true, it was conservatives who raised the red flag when the progressive liberals tried to legalize beastiality with in the U.S. military when the Obama White House lied to Congress and during a lame duck session of Congress repealed DADT.

    If it weren't for conservatives there would be goats, sheep, chickens and frighten dogs on military bases and on our war ships.
    There you go again with the lying comments equating homosexuality with Beastiality. What is it about conservatism that makes you type lying comments? I think some conservatives talk about beastiality because they like to do it. Kinda like how your priests touch little boys.

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    Re: Obama: 'They Don't Call Moscow' When There's Trouble in The World

    USA is synonymous with "SUCKERS".

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