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Police Reveal Gruesome Beheading Detail in Oklahoma Food Distribution Plant [W:15]

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APACHERAT said:
Fist, hands, feet, etc. ???
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You have to admit those are personal weapons, and are used to kill people at times.
 
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WCH said:
Police Reveal Gruesome Beheading Detail in Oklahoma Food Distribution Plant Murder | TheBlaze.com

Gruesome new details have been revealed regarding a woman murdered in Moore, Oklahoma, Thursday. According to local outlets, she was beheaded by a man who was reportedly in the process of converting to Islam.

The victim, identified as Colleen Hufford, 54, died at the scene at Vaughan Foods, a food distribution company, after the violent attack unfolded around 4:05 p.m. at the hands of a male former employee.

Alton Alexander Nolen, who was fired from the business before allegedly attacking Hufford and another coworker, is the primary suspect in the case. He was shot during the attack by an off-duty officer and remans hospitalized, but is expected to survive.

Lone wolf or part of a larger plot?
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Yeah and according to these PC progressives - Islam is a fine dandy religion and questioning Islam, fearing Islam or even being angry as Islam is just ignorance.

The not so funny thing is that this happens ALL THE TIME, this beheading just made news because it wasn't an "honor killing" however "honor killings" in the US are quasi common when looking at how little Islam fits into the US demographic.
 
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WCH said:
Do you believe Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan was the perpetrator of workplace violence?
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No. His was a terrorist act that was also an act of workplace violence (because the fact is that he worked at Fort Hood).

About this, I don't have any idea. I mean, when someone "goes postal" and has a grudge, any old excuse will do. Nobody knows what paranoid delusions and resentments this man had, only that his method was gruesome and his weapon of choice personal.
 
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Unrepresented said:
The good news is that terrorists have a massive amount of ground to cover if they want to catch up to the rate we're killing ourselves at.

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That's because Muslims like to cut heads and blow up bombs as their method of murder.........

If a Muslim is going to kill you it generally won't be with a gun..

Hanging, stoning and beheading are their methods....
 
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Dittohead not! said:
You have to admit those are personal weapons, and are used to kill people at times.
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I remember when I was younger, you had many teenagers boxing at local gyms. Some went on to Golden Gloves and eventually as amateur or proffessional boxers. Those who did the later were registered with the state and their fist were considered to be lethal weapons. They had to be real careful before getting involved in a fight.
 
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Mr.Nick said:
That's because Muslims like to cut heads and blow up bombs as their method of murder.........

If a Muslim is going to kill you it generally won't be with a gun..

Hanging, stoning and beheading are their methods....
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Which means that a CCW and a .45 will do very nicely.
 
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WCH said:
Police Reveal Gruesome Beheading Detail in Oklahoma Food Distribution Plant Murder | TheBlaze.com

Gruesome new details have been revealed regarding a woman murdered in Moore, Oklahoma, Thursday. According to local outlets, she was beheaded by a man who was reportedly in the process of converting to Islam.

The victim, identified as Colleen Hufford, 54, died at the scene at Vaughan Foods, a food distribution company, after the violent attack unfolded around 4:05 p.m. at the hands of a male former employee.

Alton Alexander Nolen, who was fired from the business before allegedly attacking Hufford and another coworker, is the primary suspect in the case. He was shot during the attack by an off-duty officer and remans hospitalized, but is expected to survive.

Lone wolf or part of a larger plot?
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Crazy jerk being crazy.
 
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Ockham said:
Is it a lone wolf? I'm wondering how many of these must occur before a pattern is recognizable and 2+2 is seen. I guess many more. It was confirmed he killed the first woman and did in fact behead her. Seems a little coincidental given the be-headings in Syria/Iraq by ISIS and I don't believe in coincidences much.
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I am surprised this terrorist attack by a muslim took place in Oklahoma. I would have expected Michigan, New Jersey, or Minnesota.
 
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reinoe said:
I am surprised this terrorist attack by a muslim took place in Oklahoma. I would have expected Michigan, New Jersey, or Minnesota.
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Miscreants that are malcontent with life come in all shapes and colors. I am sure he "converted" in prison.
 
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SMTA said:
Which means that a CCW and a .45 will do very nicely.
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It's difficult to shoot someone when they've cut off your head.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Miscreants that are malcontent with life come in all shapes and colors. I am sure he "converted" in prison.
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Or he can convert in Hell.
 
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WCH said:
Do you believe Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan was the perpetrator of workplace violence?
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Hence the use of "most" not "all". From time to time it can be something different but he too was a lone wolf from what I understood from the media at the time.
 
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Unrepresented said:
It's difficult to shoot someone when they've cut off your head.
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Anybody carrying legally and intelligently will not allow that to happen.

It's called situational awareness.

They should never be allowed closer than 21 feet.
 
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SMTA said:
Which means that a CCW and a .45 will do very nicely.
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No it doesn't.

Maybe in a fire fight but if they have a hostage - well, heads roll.

Muslims sacrifice their victims (if they have them) rather than put bullets in em.

Muslims are on an entirely different level - their executions are religious based, and depending on what religion/crime you committed or are affiliated with determines your execution method including sex.

Look, they just don't cut heads "just because they feel like it" - that is a religious punishment or (sacrament as weird as it sounds)...

Hanging is for common criminals (especially for men).

Firing squad is for an individual of high standing - especially in the military or within their ranks.

Stoning usually is for woman who commit petty crimes that violate Sharia.

The bombings are just blatant suicide terrorism, which creates a martyr out of the bomber.

It's way more complicated that that tho, the aforementioned are just simplistic or generic punishments.

However this doesn't tell the full story - that would just take me too long to write into something an individual could potentially wrap their head around.
 
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SMTA said:
Anybody carrying legally and intelligently will not allow that to happen.

It's called situational awareness.

They should never be allowed closer than 21 feet.
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I wouldn't allow 21 feet - especially if someone is getting stabbed.
 
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Unrepresented said:
It's difficult to shoot someone when they've cut off your head.
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Then again, why let someone cut off your head when you have a .45 on you.... :shrug:
 
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SMTA said:
Anybody carrying legally and intelligently will not allow that to happen.

It's called situational awareness.

They should never be allowed closer than 21 feet.
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If I have a distance of at least 21 feet and situational awareness the ccw becomes largely unnecessary for a person trying to avoid decapitation.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Just a dude with a grudge. Or at least that will be the spin.
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The religion of peace.
 
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Unrepresented said:
It's difficult to shoot someone when they've cut off your head.
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It's even more more difficult to cut off someone's head, when you're getting shot multiple times.
 
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APACHERAT said:
I remember when I was younger, you had many teenagers boxing at local gyms. Some went on to Golden Gloves and eventually as amateur or proffessional boxers. Those who did the later were registered with the state and their fist were considered to be lethal weapons. They had to be real careful before getting involved in a fight.
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Lots of people's hands are "lethal weapons" in reality when used for that purpose. It depends on the strength of the attacker and the victim.
 
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Unrepresented said:
If I have a distance of at least 21 feet and situational awareness the ccw becomes largely unnecessary for a person trying to avoid decapitation.
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You do not understand logic and common sense, do you?

Would you plan to tiptoe away while unarmed?

Call 911, and wait for a really long time?

Cry like a girl and beg for your life?

Since you cannot comprehend the logic behind the 21 foot rule, be prepared to have someone else save you.
 
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Mr.Nick said:
I wouldn't allow 21 feet - especially if someone is getting stabbed.
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That is the right answer - 21 feet is the minimum with nothing else happening.
 
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Unrepresented said:
It's difficult to shoot someone when they've cut off your head.
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What if I told you I once saw someone's head taken off from a RPG round while running across a rice paddy and he kept running headless for another 20 feet.
 
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SMTA said:
You do not understand logic and common sense, do you?

Would you plan to tiptoe away while unarmed?

Call 911, and wait for a really long time?

Cry like a girl and beg for your life?

Since you cannot comprehend the logic behind the 21 foot rule, be prepared to have someone else save you.
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I have managed to not be beheaded so far.
 
Re: Police Reveal Gruesome Beheading Detail in Oklahoma Food Distribution Plant [W:15

WCH said:
Police Reveal Gruesome Beheading Detail in Oklahoma Food Distribution Plant Murder | TheBlaze.com

Gruesome new details have been revealed regarding a woman murdered in Moore, Oklahoma, Thursday. According to local outlets, she was beheaded by a man who was reportedly in the process of converting to Islam.

The victim, identified as Colleen Hufford, 54, died at the scene at Vaughan Foods, a food distribution company, after the violent attack unfolded around 4:05 p.m. at the hands of a male former employee.

Alton Alexander Nolen, who was fired from the business before allegedly attacking Hufford and another coworker, is the primary suspect in the case. He was shot during the attack by an off-duty officer and remans hospitalized, but is expected to survive.

Lone wolf or part of a larger plot?
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Greetings, WCH. :2wave:

Although it will probably not be admitted, I think it might be part of a larger plot. The FBI has stated that they are watching certain groups, but they certainly can't know about everyone who may have entered through Mexico in the past year, as one example. I think they are here, and will doubtless carry out someone's long-range plans, while we seem to only react to what they do after the fact! :2mad:
 
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