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    Re: US-backed rebel group criticises Syria strikes.....

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Libs that don't know their history spent a lot of time after 9-11-01 accusing Reagan of arming the Mujahideen not knowing it was a liberal who was actually behind it.
    Though liberal on domestic issues, Wilson was a foreign policy hawk. Being a Democrat does not equate to being a liberal. Nice try.

    And for what it's worth, the Mujahideen and the Taliban are hardly equivalent.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: US-backed rebel group criticises Syria strikes.....

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Though liberal on domestic issues, Wilson was a foreign policy hawk. Being a Democrat does not equate to being a liberal. Nice try.

    And for what it's worth, the Mujahideen and the Taliban are hardly equivalent.
    Charlie was a patriot, he was a JFK liberal.

    Not all real liberals fled the Democrat party during the 1970's when the radical left aka "New Left" came under the Democrat tent.

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    Re: US-backed rebel group criticises Syria strikes.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Starting wars against ISIS, al-Qaeda, and any other terrorist group is like treating the symptom rather than the cause.

    People say you can't have a war or terror but you can. Find out who finances it and boom, boom, out go the lights.

    That's all they understand.

    It would be a basic requirement.....one would think. Of course 3 of them that do all that funding are Nation States. In which they buy loads and loads of weapons off of us. Whom we say are allies and assists us.

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    Re: US-backed rebel group criticises Syria strikes.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    A Syrian rebel group that has reportedly received weapons from the United States criticised air strikes Tuesday by a US-led coalition against jihadists in the war-torn country. The Hazm Movement, in a statement posted on their Twitter account, said the strikes would undermine the armed opposition and benefit President Bashar al-Assad's regime. They described the strikes as "an attack on national sovereignty that undermines the Syrian revolution".

    The Hazm Movement is among a small number of rebel groups reported to have received US weapons earlier this year, and was among those cited by US Secretary of State John Kerry last week as likely to receive US arms and training in coming months.
    I'm not surprised. The sectarian factions have been anything but reliable. This includes the so-called moderate Free Syrian Army. Those factions are a big part of the problem that plagues contemporary Syria and have contributed greatly to that country's enormous loss of life. Their actions have also aided the rise of ISIS on account of the power vacuums they've created, arms leakages that have been an ongoing problem, and their own shifting alliances.

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    Re: US-backed rebel group criticises Syria strikes.....

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    I'm not surprised. The sectarian factions have been anything but reliable. This includes the so-called moderate Free Syrian Army. Those factions are a big part of the problem that plagues contemporary Syria and have contributed greatly to that country's enormous loss of life. Their actions have also aided the rise of ISIS on account of the power vacuums they've created, arms leakages that have been an ongoing problem, and their own shifting alliances.
    Mornin DS. Yeah and you called it a couple of weeks ago. There is none we can trust in dealing with Syria.

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    Re: US-backed rebel group criticises Syria strikes.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well it didn't take long.....The Rebels are out criticizing the Air Strikes. The very same ones that Kerry said we were going to train. The others still want the pressure on Assad. How do you think this affects things going forward with the money BO wants to give to these MB Backed Sunni Rebels?


    A Syrian rebel group that has reportedly received weapons from the United States criticised air strikes Tuesday by a US-led coalition against jihadists in the war-torn country. The Hazm Movement, in a statement posted on their Twitter account, said the strikes would undermine the armed opposition and benefit President Bashar al-Assad's regime. They described the strikes as "an attack on national sovereignty that undermines the Syrian revolution".

    The Hazm Movement is among a small number of rebel groups reported to have received US weapons earlier this year, and was among those cited by US Secretary of State John Kerry last week as likely to receive US arms and training in coming months. Syria's opposition National Coalition, a key political grouping, welcomed the US-led strikes on Tuesday, but also urged the international community to keep up pressure on Assad.....snip~

    US-backed rebel group criticises Syria strikes
    And they would be right.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: US-backed rebel group criticises Syria strikes.....

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Support of the Mujahideen created a power vacuum that gave rise to the Taliban. US interference has been creating consequences for decades.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: US-backed rebel group criticises Syria strikes.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Support of the Mujahideen created a power vacuum that gave rise to the Taliban. US interference has been creating consequences for decades.
    Wasn't the Taliban created by Pakistan intelligence ?

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    Re: US-backed rebel group criticises Syria strikes.....

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Libs that don't know their history spent a lot of time after 9-11-01 accusing Reagan of arming the Mujahideen not knowing it was a liberal who was actually behind it.


    ah come on now.....

    Us progressives spend a lot of time accusing.......

    period.

    Even in this thread, about arming rebels now and the historical consequences we see this
    These are also the people that McCain and Graham wanted to arm two years ago.
    Oh that sure makes it all right to do it now.

    You could say that Obama forgot to get his shoes shined and twenty progressives would pipe up to announce that Bush never wore shoes.
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    Re: US-backed rebel group criticises Syria strikes.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well it didn't take long.....The Rebels are out criticizing the Air Strikes. The very same ones that Kerry said we were going to train. The others still want the pressure on Assad. How do you think this affects things going forward with the money BO wants to give to these MB Backed Sunni Rebels?


    A Syrian rebel group that has reportedly received weapons from the United States criticised air strikes Tuesday by a US-led coalition against jihadists in the war-torn country. The Hazm Movement, in a statement posted on their Twitter account, said the strikes would undermine the armed opposition and benefit President Bashar al-Assad's regime. They described the strikes as "an attack on national sovereignty that undermines the Syrian revolution".

    The Hazm Movement is among a small number of rebel groups reported to have received US weapons earlier this year, and was among those cited by US Secretary of State John Kerry last week as likely to receive US arms and training in coming months. Syria's opposition National Coalition, a key political grouping, welcomed the US-led strikes on Tuesday, but also urged the international community to keep up pressure on Assad.....snip~

    US-backed rebel group criticises Syria strikes
    So...this particular rebel group is upset because we are attacking ISIS. Perhaps that's because ISIS doesn't like Assad and the rebels see this a hindering their fight.

    Now...these are the people who Obama wants to be his "boots on the ground". Yeah...they might help Obama...they might not. If they do, they'll want something in return. Perhaps they will want the US to attack Assad with air strikes?

    I'm thinking Obama trying to get these guys to do his fighting for him will be a tricky, touchy, dangerous endeavor. I wish him luck.
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