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    Re: Hundreds Of Thousands Turn Out For People's Climate March In New York City

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Note the "throughout the ages" component of my post related to research that has been done. To the reasonable observer, such a clear statement would allow them to conclude that the comment suggested the total amount released over this time period amounted to more than the total amount associated with all human activity. Nowhere in that comment does it provide any numerical reference to specific CO2 measurements.

    Again, it would appear that intersection has got you baffled.
    What has me baffled is that you think climate would be affected by all those fires but atmospheric CO2 concentrations would not

    But then, the right has never been very good at connecting the dots, particularly when it comes to science
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    Re: Hundreds Of Thousands Turn Out For People's Climate March In New York City

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    What has me baffled is that you think climate would be affected by all those fires but atmospheric CO2 concentrations would not

    But then, the right has never been very good at connecting the dots, particularly when it comes to science
    LOL

    I have no idea where you are in your thinking my friend. Perhaps you were struck by something in that intersection.

    I presented what I've learned, including the massive release of CO2 into the atmosphere. Another poster attempted to present a rebuttal, but only established that these releases could stay in the atmosphere for centuries. I have no idea how you have concluded I suggested atmospheric CO2 was not impacted by these events.

    Perhaps before you complain about the right and science, you should strive to improve your ability to comprehend what you are reading. It would make the complaint so much more impactful.

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    Re: Hundreds Of Thousands Turn Out For People's Climate March In New York City

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    LOL

    I have no idea where you are in your thinking my friend. Perhaps you were struck by something in that intersection.

    I presented what I've learned, including the massive release of CO2 into the atmosphere. Another poster attempted to present a rebuttal, but only established that these releases could stay in the atmosphere for centuries. I have no idea how you have concluded I suggested atmospheric CO2 was not impacted by these events.

    Perhaps before you complain about the right and science, you should strive to improve your ability to comprehend what you are reading. It would make the complaint so much more impactful.
    That was not an honest or accurate portrayal of the discussion, which you began by citing all the forest fires that happened, compared them to the CO2 emissions from human activity and asked why they didn't affect the climate

    The only way you could ask how those fires did not affect the climate while human activity did is by ignoring the effect both have had on increasing atmospheric CO2 concentrations. If you considered the CO2 concentrations, you wouldn't have asked because CO2 concentration is the answer - specifically, those fires did not raise the CO2 concentrations higher than they are today.

    And if you spent as much time trying to understand how forests have affected the concentrations levels as you have spent on trying to win the internets, you'd understand why human activity has increased CO2 concentrations to the point that they affect global warming but the forest fires you speak of did not. (Hint: because of human activity, there is less carbon locked up in forests and guess where most of it went?)
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    Re: Hundreds Of Thousands Turn Out For People's Climate March In New York City

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Timeline for right wingers acceptance of mainstream science:

    On the Origin of Species was published in 1859. 156 years later most polling indicates that approximately 37% of conservatives accept the Theory of Evolution. Thus we can conclude that by 2060 the majority of conservatives will accept what has been universally accepted in science for 150 years now.

    The first IPCC assessment was released in 1990. Thus we can assume that the majority of conservatives will not accept AGW until approximately 2190. As it seems to take approximately 8 generations for conservatives to arrive at the same position that mainstream science can arrive at in 1 generation.
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    Re: Hundreds Of Thousands Turn Out For People's Climate March In New York City

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Are these people protesting natural climate change warming or alleged man made climate change warming?
    I don't know. I don't argue about hypotheticals here.
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    Re: Hundreds Of Thousands Turn Out For People's Climate March In New York City

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Timeline for right wingers acceptance of mainstream science:

    On the Origin of Species was published in 1859. 156 years later most polling indicates that approximately 37% of conservatives accept the Theory of Evolution. Thus we can conclude that by 2060 the majority of conservatives will accept what has been universally accepted in science for 150 years now.

    The first IPCC assessment was released in 1990. Thus we can assume that the majority of conservatives will not accept AGW until approximately 2190. As it seems to take approximately 8 generations for conservatives to arrive at the same position that mainstream science can arrive at in 1 generation.
    This pretty much sums up the climate change deniers. They are in the proud tradition of conservative ignorance and backward anti-science.

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    Re: Hundreds Of Thousands Turn Out For People's Climate March In New York City

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I never suggested they did. I understand it can be difficult when you comment on something without the benefit of content or context.
    And I never suggested there weren't natural fires. So look who's taking things out of context. If you can't stand the heat . . .

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    Re: Hundreds Of Thousands Turn Out For People's Climate March In New York City

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    LOL

    I have no idea where you are in your thinking my friend. Perhaps you were struck by something in that intersection.

    I presented what I've learned, including the massive release of CO2 into the atmosphere. Another poster attempted to present a rebuttal, but only established that these releases could stay in the atmosphere for centuries. I have no idea how you have concluded I suggested atmospheric CO2 was not impacted by these events.

    Perhaps before you complain about the right and science, you should strive to improve your ability to comprehend what you are reading. It would make the complaint so much more impactful.
    Since you have yet to rebut the clear fact that a large portion of fires are man-made either directly or indirectly, you seem to be arguing against yourself again.

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    Re: Hundreds Of Thousands Turn Out For People's Climate March In New York City

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    This may be true, but I'll bet you politicians respond much more to citizens lining up at polling stations to vote and they listen to them when they scream about the increasing costs in their daily lives as a result, partially, of inefficient and exceedingly costly green energy alternatives. You can also bet that most people who vote have no interest in exchanging their comfortable lives to live in the equivalent of a cave.

    As for politicians paying attention to large crowds marching, regale us if you would with all the legislation and government action that resulted from the summer sit-in and march-fest around Occupy Wall Street. The 300,000 in NYC were basically the same band of union activists, brainwashed teenagers, and societal miscreants looking for a street party to pass the time.
    I love the smell of fear in the morning as conservatives understand that they are losing on another issue, and so have to resort to another feckless smear campaign.

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    Re: Hundreds Of Thousands Turn Out For People's Climate March In New York City

    Quote Originally Posted by FaceofBachmann View Post
    This pretty much sums up the climate change deniers. They are in the proud tradition of conservative ignorance and backward anti-science.
    In all fairness, crunchy liberals can buy into pretty absurd crap as well. Just look at the anti-vax bunch or how neurotic some hardcore libs are about GMOs, and don't get me started on the gluten free nonsense. However, the anti-science on the left more or less follows trends, and only lasts a few years to a decade or so before they move on to something else. Moreover, stupid liberals get ridiculed by other liberals. For example, most liberals are not anti-vaccinations, so the ones that are get ridiculed by the ones that are not so ignorant.
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