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    Re: Hundreds Of Thousands Turn Out For People's Climate March In New York City

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    There is a clear record of atmospheric CO2 concentrations that show industrialization has caused it to rise.



    If you want to discuss the impact of atmospheric CO2 concentrations, you'll have to show an increase in them. "There were forest fires" is not enough. Not even close
    LOL

    If you say so. I'll stick with the scientific research you apparently want to dismiss. Perhaps they are not the right scientists? Best to only consider the funded ones supporting the cause. Got it.

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    Re: Hundreds Of Thousands Turn Out For People's Climate March In New York City

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    If I'm not mistaken fire was around before Man, and lighting wasn't invented by Ben Franklin.
    You are mistaken if you think these facts exclude increased large uncontrolled fires due to human activity. Surely you've heard of matches?

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    Re: Hundreds Of Thousands Turn Out For People's Climate March In New York City

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    The vast majority of carbon not sequestered in fossil fuels, peat, and permafrost, is in the oceans. When we come out of ice ages, the oceans warm, when the oceans warm they cannot sequester as much carbon and thus more is released into the atmosphere. As more carbon is released into the atmosphere, warming is amplified. A good explanation of this is here:

    CO2 lags temperature - what does it mean?

    You should look at what science has to say about a topic before you become so arrogant as to think that something has occurred to you that has not occurred to scientists that have spent a lifetime working in that field.
    Speaking of arrogance.....if it's so cut and dry as you suggest, why don't the models fall in line with your AGW data?
    Hmmmmm?

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    Re: Hundreds Of Thousands Turn Out For People's Climate March In New York City

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    LOL

    If you say so. I'll stick with the scientific research you apparently want to dismiss. Perhaps they are not the right scientists? Best to only consider the funded ones supporting the cause. Got it.
    The research you cited doesn't show that ancient forest fires raised atmospheric CO2 concentrations above what they are today
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    Re: Hundreds Of Thousands Turn Out For People's Climate March In New York City

    Quote Originally Posted by FaceofBachmann View Post
    You are mistaken if you think these facts exclude increased large uncontrolled fires due to human activity. Surely you've heard of matches?
    I never suggested they did. I understand it can be difficult when you comment on something without the benefit of content or context.

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    Re: Hundreds Of Thousands Turn Out For People's Climate March In New York City

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The research you cited doesn't show that ancient forest fires raised atmospheric CO2 concentrations above what they are today
    Correct. And I never suggested they did. Perhaps the intersection of agenda and promotion is causing you some confusion.

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    Re: Hundreds Of Thousands Turn Out For People's Climate March In New York City

    Quote Originally Posted by FaceofBachmann View Post
    Ultimately politicians respond to numbers. Getting several hundred thousand to march for a cause in today's apathetic and cynical political atmosphere is very hard to do and suggests a growing sentiment that politicians must act on climate change or suffer at the polls.

    This is how it's always been done in America. Change requires noisemaking and lots of people making their feelings known publicly.
    This may be true, but I'll bet you politicians respond much more to citizens lining up at polling stations to vote and they listen to them when they scream about the increasing costs in their daily lives as a result, partially, of inefficient and exceedingly costly green energy alternatives. You can also bet that most people who vote have no interest in exchanging their comfortable lives to live in the equivalent of a cave.

    As for politicians paying attention to large crowds marching, regale us if you would with all the legislation and government action that resulted from the summer sit-in and march-fest around Occupy Wall Street. The 300,000 in NYC were basically the same band of union activists, brainwashed teenagers, and societal miscreants looking for a street party to pass the time.
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    Re: Hundreds Of Thousands Turn Out For People's Climate March In New York City

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Correct. And I never suggested they did. Perhaps the intersection of agenda and promotion is causing you some confusion.

    No, you never suggested that
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    It has been suggested that the accumulated CO2 release from naturally caused forest fires throughout the ages has released many more times the CO2 into the atmosphere than the total amount of CO2 released by man since the dawn of modern man.

    Why wasn't the climate impacted then?
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    Re: Hundreds Of Thousands Turn Out For People's Climate March In New York City

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, you never suggested that
    Note the "throughout the ages" component of my post related to research that has been done. To the reasonable observer, such a clear statement would allow them to conclude that the comment suggested the total amount released over this time period amounted to more than the total amount associated with all human activity. Nowhere in that comment does it provide any numerical reference to specific CO2 measurements.

    Again, it would appear that intersection has got you baffled.

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    Re: Hundreds Of Thousands Turn Out For People's Climate March In New York City

    Quote Originally Posted by Meister View Post
    Speaking of arrogance.....if it's so cut and dry as you suggest, why don't the models fall in line with your AGW data?
    Hmmmmm?
    Because they are not made to do short term climate forecasting.
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