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    Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    'In a move that is certain to further escalate already stretched racial tensions in America's most cosmopolitan city, some 100 New York City buses will soon carry jarring anti-Islamic posters which feature photos of an ISIS beheading victim, his alleged executioner, Adolf Hitler, declare "Yesterday's moderate [Muslim] is today's headline" and proclaim "It's not Islamophobia, it's Islamorealism" as part of an "educational campaign." According to the NY Daily News, the ads, paid for by flame-throwing blogger Pamela Geller, at a cost of $100,000, are intended as an “education campaign” to warn of the “problem with jihad” and Islamic sharia law, Geller said.'



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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    What is shocking?
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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Not going to happen.

    NYC will not allow it.

    And I think OP just found a decietful link.

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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    How is this going to cause an increase in racial tensions? Islam isn't a race.

    I agree this will never fly, unfortunately.
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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Sigh.

    First, Islam is a religion, an ideology. Not a race. Sadly, though, it WILL increase racial tension, because, well....people are stupid.

    Second, I confess to being a tad...split on this. I can't say that I overly disagree with most of the messages here.

    I don't know the answer. But I can say...a big part of me wants to just say "**** 'em" and kill every last Islamist, muslim, etc. And then move on to the Christians, and finally, the Jews.

    Learn to ****ing get along, or appreciate the reality that will be living with more and more people like me.

    We're sick of hearing about it. We're sick of fighting because of it. We're sick of legislation concerning it.

    Learn to get along.



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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Group to Sue After M.T.A. Rejects Ad That Refers to Muslims Killing Jews
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    So, the jist of it seems that the MTA's adverts were declared a designated public forum in previous disputes and thus the MTA has been forced to carry ad campaigns like the above before. However in this case, the MTA has rejected the campaign and is now being sued by them to carry it.
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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Being proactively against Islamism is a position that requires a lot of prefacing in order for it to not seem silly. That doesn't mean that being proactively against Islamism is silly, it just means that making bumper-stickeresque ads for it will be silly.

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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    'In a move that is certain to further escalate already stretched racial tensions in America's most cosmopolitan city, some 100 New York City buses will soon carry jarring anti-Islamic posters which feature photos of an ISIS beheading victim, his alleged executioner, Adolf Hitler, declare "Yesterday's moderate [Muslim] is today's headline" and proclaim "It's not Islamophobia, it's Islamorealism" as part of an "educational campaign." According to the NY Daily News, the ads, paid for by flame-throwing blogger Pamela Geller, at a cost of $100,000, are intended as an “education campaign” to warn of the “problem with jihad” and Islamic sharia law, Geller said.'



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    My reaction?

    A few years ago, the Central Arkansas Transit Authority was successfully sued in federal court for refusing* a pro-atheist advertisement. I wonder if the same result will happen here.

    *And they didn't even refuse it, they just required a bond be posted against potential vandalism.

    That said, I agree that the ad is misleading and should not be ran.

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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    While all racism is bigotry, not all bigotry is racism. Islam is a religion, not a race, therefore anti-Islamic statements, while they are bigoted, are not racist.
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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Here in Toronto, on our buses and subways, religious ads are always controversial. However, if they simply espouse the "benefits" of one religion without disparaging any other religion they have been accepted in limited ways. The ones I've seen have simply been informational such as "get more information here", etc.

    Personally, regardless of your views on the topics expressed in the three ads posted in the OP, I believe these ads are dangerous in that they could incite violence against anyone who is outwardly Islamic and clearly many Muslims wear their religion quite clearly in their everyday lives. On that basis, I would oppose them just as strenuously as I would oppose some Palestinian support group who wanted to post ads condemning Israel for Palestinian "apartheid".
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