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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I don't know what world you come from, but people say **** about Jews all the time. If it's not griping over treatment of Hamas (or Palestinians, whatever their called :P) then everyone's complaining about them being so rich and greedy.

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    Please provide a link of a mainstream political commentator, politician, activist, or anyone else who describes Jews as rich and greedy. The bit about Israel is irrelevant nonsense. Criticism of the actions of a state is not racism. It would be like saying you hate black people because you don't like Mugabe or you hate Asians because you criticized China or North Korea. Or that criticizing American policy is equivalent to hating white people. That is more bull ****, invented by people like Frank Luntz to deflect criticism away from Israel's ongoing occupation and colonization of Palestine. So I don't want a link criticizing Israel, I want one criticizing Jews. Don't worry, I will wait.

    PS. You added that link after I responded, so I will say HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH!! South Park. They criticize Muslims, Jews, Mormons, black people, and everyone else. It is satire of anti-Semitism NOT anti-semitism itself. We are not talking about a comedic cartoon, we are talking about political activists and commentators.
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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Quote Originally Posted by Frodly View Post
    Please provide a link of a mainstream political commentator, politician, activist, or anyone else who describes Jews as rich and greedy. The bit about Israel is irrelevant nonsense. Criticism of the actions of a state is not racism. It would be like saying you hate black people because you don't like Mugabe or you hate Asians because you criticized China or North Korea. Or that criticizing American policy is equivalent to hating white people. That is more bull ****, invented by people like Frank Luntz to deflect criticism away from Israel's ongoing occupation and colonization of Palestine. So I don't want a link criticizing Israel, I want one criticizing Jews. Don't worry, I will wait.

    PS. You added that link after I responded, so I will say HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH!! South Park. They criticize Muslims, Jews, Mormons, black people, and everyone else. It is satire of anti-Semitism NOT anti-semitism itself. We are not talking about a comedic cartoon, we are talking about political activists and commentators.
    You know South Park is great satire when both sides simultaneously claim Trey Parker and Matt Stone as their own AND rip them for the stuff that offends their sensibilities.

    There are NO sacred cows on South Park.
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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    This is a personal attack AND it make no sense.
    Quit with the victim card. It's not a personal attack. You seem to think anything that remotely connects to you is a "personal attack." If you feel it's a personal attack, push the report post button and stop talking about it in-thread.

    Conservatives have talked about all sorts of things like banning the construction of mosques and preventing Muslims from immigrating to this country. Even to the point of ludicrous things like freaking out when high schools offered classes in Farsi.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    We can all agree that her reaction to the Rachel Ray ad was far over the top, but let's not dismiss the subliminal messaging that has been a significant part of advertising since its inception.
    Ahh so you agree that this is part of the impending caliphate?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Ahh so you agree that this is part of the impending caliphate?
    Did I say that?

    Some people apparently can't help themselves - they have to jump to the most illogical and/or partisan conclusion no matter what the conversation may be about. Congrats on being so predictable.
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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    We can all agree that her reaction to the Rachel Ray ad was far over the top, but let's not dismiss the subliminal messaging that has been a significant part of advertising since its inception.
    I've just been Googling about this but can't find any info on whether this scarf actually was what Geller said it was. Was it?

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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Quit with the victim card. It's not a personal attack. You seem to think anything that remotely connects to you is a "personal attack." If you feel it's a personal attack, push the report post button and stop talking about it in-thread.

    Conservatives have talked about all sorts of things like banning the construction of mosques and preventing Muslims from immigrating to this country. Even to the point of ludicrous things like freaking out when high schools offered classes in Farsi.
    Stop being coy. You can't help but make the thread about your opponent, bevause your position is weak. It never fails.
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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I've just been Googling about this but can't find any info on whether this scarf actually was what Geller said it was. Was it?
    It's similar. The replica of Arafat's is sold on E-bay for about $30.00. I think fashion consultants picked out this thing and Ray wore it for the advertising shoot. Most Americans are unaware of the symbolism attached to the kifayah in this case, so I seriously doubt it was meant to be anything other than a fashion statement. IOW, if you're looking to be offended, you don't have far to look. Looks like Geller was wrong on the specifics and probably wrong in the larger sense as well. I think Ray was trying to sell food - not some radical Islamic view.

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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I've just been Googling about this but can't find any info on whether this scarf actually was what Geller said it was. Was it?

    No it is not. I had never even heard about that particular controversy before, but I have been the the keffiyeh factory in Hebron, and the shape of her scarf is not even remotely the same. Similar color pattern, but that is hardly relevant to much. It would be like claiming a person wearing a red scarf is sympathizing with China. It is insane nonsense.
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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    It's similar. The replica of Arafat's is sold on E-bay for about $30.00. I think fashion consultants picked out this thing and Ray wore it for the advertising shoot. Most Americans are unaware of the symbolism attached to the kifayah in this case, so I seriously doubt it was meant to be anything other than a fashion statement. IOW, if you're looking to be offended, you don't have far to look. Looks like Geller was wrong on the specifics and probably wrong in the larger sense as well. I think Ray was trying to sell food - not some radical Islamic view.

    That is a bold claim. It sounds like it is meant to be funny, but I can't tell if it is or not.....
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