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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It doesn't change the reality that they have the right to post the ads.
    Absolutely. There were no widespread complaints when American Muslims for Palestine placed there ad on buses a few months earlier. It seems the criticisms can only flow in one direction, and that is very strange.

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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Why else would you post my comment from another thtead, except to say, "look, everybody! This bloke's a hater!"
    It was uncalled for.

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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    When do the first amendment rights of one party override the first amendment rights of another? Aren't you disrespecting the first amendment rights of Muslims when you say they "will come to understand, by that example, that they have to moderate their religious feelings"? Isn't the NYC subway/transit system an arm of the government? Can't it be argued that the government is clearly abusing the first amendment rights of Muslims through allowing such ads?

    Yes, what the city transit agency does is state action. I don't understand whose right to free speech you think is involved, other than this woman's organization. What government entity in this case has infringed the free speech of any Muslim, and how?

    Nothing in the First Amendment protects private persons from being offended by what other private persons say. I didn't see any statement in those ads that was false. If some Muslim doesn't like having it pointed out publicly that parts of the Koran condemn Jews, that the Mufti of Jerusalem was thick as thieves with Hitler, that CAIR and HAMAS are creations of the Muslim Brotherhood, and so on, too bad.

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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    James Foley's death, carried out by savages, is despicable and appalling. Any reasonable person SHOULD already understand that. Why does Pamela Geller think Americans need advertising on buses to remind them of the dangers that Islamic extremists pose?

    Foley's friends and loved ones will be disgusted to think he is more than likely going to be remembered by many ignorant people as just the guy who had his head cut off by idiotic extremists whilst they use his death as propoganda.

    You're kidding yourself if you think that Pamela Geller gives a crap about James Foley.
    I knew I'd seen her name somewhere, so I Googled. Her blog is Atlas Shrugs.

    Pamela Geller - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    I would ask what anyone thinks this "advertisement" is supposed to accomplish...

    "THIS TYPE OF MURDER IS BAD!"

    Yes. And?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Another personal attack. This is how it always starts. You get a couple of Libbos slinging insults vice debating the topic and things go to ****.
    That's attacking your argument, not you. He called your argument garbage, not you.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They had to put it in over-drive after 9/11.
    Yep. Because people like you were demanding we eliminate the first amendment.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yep. Because people like you were demanding we eliminate the first amendment.
    This is a personal attack AND it make no sense.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Just as a point of interest, what would be wrong with denigrating the whole of Islam?
    You would need a better argument than terrorism, since not all Muslims are terrorists.

    In any case, the ads would tend to incite violence against Muslims, which makes those supporting the ads no better than the people the ads are targeting.

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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    You would need a better argument than terrorism, since not all Muslims are terrorists.
    That wasn't the question.

    In any case, the ads would tend to incite violence against Muslims, which makes those supporting the ads no better than the people the ads are targeting.
    Are you, after reading that poster, now intending to incite violence against Muslims?

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