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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Quote Originally Posted by Frodly View Post
    That is a bold claim. It sounds like it is meant to be funny, but I can't tell if it is or not.....
    I am vewy bold.

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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    "Lets put provocative ads IN a terrorists favorite target. Nothing could go wrong there."

    Great plan.
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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I've just been Googling about this but can't find any info on whether this scarf actually was what Geller said it was. Was it?
    Sorry, I don't know - it does look like something a lot of female reporters are wearing when the file reports from middle eastern locales so it could be a native dress of the area and perhaps it's simply a matter of Ray liking the look and "normalizing" it. It wouldn't be the first time an "exotic" fashion became mainstream in western areas.
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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Islam is a politically correct religion. Liberals are obligated to defend it. I believe the anti-American/anti-democracy ellements make Islam acceptable to Liberals.
    Muslims are among the most conservative people in the world. Muslim states hate liberals, hate gays, believe in traditional gender roles, believe in laws based on religious values- a natural fit with conservatives.
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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Muslims are among the most conservative people in the world. Muslim states hate liberals, hate gays, believe in traditional gender roles, believe in laws based on religious values- a natural fit with conservatives.
    Islamic countries prefer big goverment statism; total government control. There's nothing about Islam that compares to American Conservatism.
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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    "Lets put provocative ads IN a terrorists favorite target. Nothing could go wrong there."

    Great plan.
    Yeah, let's do away with The Constitution, because we're afraid of the Muslims.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Absolutely. There were no widespread complaints when American Muslims for Palestine placed there ad on buses a few months earlier. It seems the criticisms can only flow in one direction, and that is very strange.
    That ad was quite tame in comparison. That one can't tell the difference is very strange.

    Top ad: currently under discussion
    Bottom ad: referenced by poster above


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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    It's similar. The replica of Arafat's is sold on E-bay for about $30.00. I think fashion consultants picked out this thing and Ray wore it for the advertising shoot. Most Americans are unaware of the symbolism attached to the kifayah in this case, so I seriously doubt it was meant to be anything other than a fashion statement. IOW, if you're looking to be offended, you don't have far to look. Looks like Geller was wrong on the specifics and probably wrong in the larger sense as well. I think Ray was trying to sell food - not some radical Islamic view.
    Err the only symbolism connected to the scarf is if it is worn as Arafat did.. which was in the form of Palestine. Else it is nothing but a headpiece worn across the Arab world due to the heat.
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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Islamic countries prefer big goverment statism; total government control. There's nothing about Islam that compares to American Conservatism.
    Conservatives advocate government control. They want laws to control the behaviour of citizens, a nanny state that makes drugs illegal because they're bad, makes gay rights illegal because they're offended by gays, makes abortion illegal because they want control of women, etc.
    Conservatives have always been on the side of authoritative government, on the side of more power for police, on the side of more laws, more control, against individual rights and liberties. They talk liberal values of personal freedom but they walk conservative values of government control.
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    Re: Shocking Anti-Islam Ad Campaign Coming To New York City Buses And Subways

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeah, let's do away with The Constitution, because we're afraid of the Muslims.
    Yeah sure. Lets make yelling "FIRE!" In a theater OK too. And legalize kiddie porn while we're at it. Wouldn't want to infringe on the pedophiles' rights, right?
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