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    House approves US arms for Syrian rebels

    The House of Representatives has approved President Barack Obama's plan to train and arm Syrian rebels that the U.S. classify as "moderate," but questions remain over whether Washington will hand over advanced weapons that such groups say they need in order to defeat the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL).The House voted 273-to-156 on Wednesday to authorize the strategy in a test of support for Obama's stepped-up campaign to "degrade and destroy" ISIL fighters who have seized swathes of Iraq and Syria as they seek to expand a self-declared caliphate in the heart of the Middle East.
    Written as an amendment to a stopgap spending bill, the measure does not earmark any new money to pay for the arms or training. It passed with support from both Democrats and Republicans, despite significant opposition from members of both parties.
    Voting for the amendment were 159 Republicans and 114 Democrats, while 71 Republicans and 85 Democrats voted against.
    The spending bill — including the training plan — will only go to Obama to be signed into law after it passes the Senate. That move is expected to come as early as Thursday.


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    Well the House passed it, with a good amount of opposition. There are many questions to be answered, such as what kind of weapons will be given, will they be advanced? What "groups" in the FSA will the arms reach, etc?


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    Re: House approves US arms for Syrian rebels

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    Well the House passed it, with a good amount of opposition. There are many questions to be answered, such as what kind of weapons will be given, will they be advanced? What "groups" in the FSA will the arms reach, etc? [/FONT][/COLOR]
    There is little mystery in where Obama sees funding for this alternative "national defense" spending will come from. Note Obama's insistence that we need alternative "boots on the ground" - that seems to imply that we will simply pay, arm and train foreign forces (mercenaries?) as opposed to using our own troops to fill those boots.
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    Re: House approves US arms for Syrian rebels

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    Well the House passed it, with a good amount of opposition. There are many questions to be answered, such as what kind of weapons will be given, will they be advanced? What "groups" in the FSA will the arms reach, etc? [/FONT][/COLOR]
    Doesn't this make us a state sponsor of terror?

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    Re: House approves US arms for Syrian rebels

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    Doesn't this make us a state sponsor of terror?
    It really depends on who the arms will go to. But technically we have been a state sponsor of terror for sometime now....


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    Re: House approves US arms for Syrian rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    It really depends on who the arms will go to. But technically we have been a state sponsor of terror for sometime now....
    Fair enough.

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    Re: House approves US arms for Syrian rebels

    ****ing stupid. Why would the house do this...

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    Re: House approves US arms for Syrian rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    ****ing stupid. Why would the house do this...

    Want something done right, you best do it yourself.
    Are you even old enough to join the military?

    BTW: This isn't meant as a put-down. I'm just curious. I know I wish I was young again.

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    Re: House approves US arms for Syrian rebels

    And we go on repeating history. Aren't we ever going to learn that arming rebels only will bite us in the butt later.

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    Re: House approves US arms for Syrian rebels

    This makes little sense to me. Congress is approving arming Syrian Rebels who have shown certain behaviors already. One, their beef is with al-Assad and are most likely to use these arms against his forces. Two, they already have shown that they have no real interest in engaging ISIS in a multiple way civil war (even though that is happening anyway.) It is a bit nonsensical to assume that with these new arms "moderate" Syrian Rebels will all of a sudden point those weapons at ISIS, on top of that I find it awkward that we trust the situation to progress to a point of ISIS fighting a three front war with Iraq (and our airstrikes,) and the Kurds (again, using our airstrikes) and Syrian Rebels (undetermined if we will drop a bomb in Syria and mean it.)

    Can someone help me with defense for what Obama wants to do and what Congress appears to be approving?

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