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    Re: Senate Blocks Pay Equity Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Who's allowed to work 60 hours a week in retail sales? Nobody.

    And yes time is necessary....it's all in how you maximize it and doesnt always take place 'in the workplace.'

    Who's allowed to work 60 hours a week in retail sales? Nobody.

    actually....in the car business.....almost everyone

    from the sales managers, to the finance managers, to the people in the bdc's (bus development ctrs), all the way to the salespeople

    some put in much more than 60 hour weeks

    this isnt macys....or best buy

    call any dealership in the area.....ask the top salespeople how many hours they work per week

    unless they've been there 15+ years, and they live on referrals, they work a LOT of hours
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    Re: Senate Blocks Pay Equity Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    Who's allowed to work 60 hours a week in retail sales? Nobody.

    actually....in the car business.....almost everyone

    from the sales managers, to the finance managers, to the people in the bdc's (bus development ctrs), all the way to the salespeople

    some put in much more than 60 hour weeks

    this isnt macys....or best buy

    call any dealership in the area.....ask the top salespeople how many hours they work per week

    unless they've been there 15+ years, and they live on referrals, they work a LOT of hours
    And are they salaried or hourly? Work on commission for sure.

    They legally cant work more than 60 if hourly if not compensated by OT.
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    Re: Senate Blocks Pay Equity Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    And are they salaried or hourly? Work on commission for sure.

    They legally cant work more than 60 if hourly if not compensated by OT.

    Yeah...I know the laws

    I also know what my managers made last year

    Hours are not an issue when average compensation exceeds 100k annually
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    Re: Senate Blocks Pay Equity Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Relax, the world wont end when your party loses control of the senate.
    No, but Americans' lives will be made worse for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Saying that equal pay already exists is the very myth you already speak of.

    Saying that women get equal pay is what has been thoroughly debunked--the opposite of what you said .
    Pretending that problems don't exist is pretty much the right wing way right now.
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    Re: Senate Blocks Pay Equity Bill

    ">>The raw wage gap data shows that a woman would earn roughly 73.7% to 77% of what a man would earn over their lifetime. However, when controllable variables are accounted for, such as job position, total hours worked, number of children, and the frequency at which unpaid leave is taken, in addition to other factors, the U.S. Department of Labor found in 2008 that the gap can be brought down from 23% to between 4.8% and 7.1%.[6]

    The gender pay gap has been attributed to differences in personal and workplace characteristics between women and men (education, hours worked, occupation etc.) as well as direct and indirect discrimination in the labor market (gender stereotypes, customer and employer bias etc.).[23][24][25]..."

    The estimates for the discriminatory component of the gender pay gap include 5%[26]:2 and 7%[27]:9 for federal jobs, and in at least one study grow as men and women's careers progress.[27]:93 One economist testified to Congress that hundreds of studies have consistently found unexplained pay differences which potentially include discrimination.[27]:80 Another criticized these studies as insufficiently controlled, and opined that men and women would have equal pay if they made the same choices and had the same experience, education, etc.[26]: Other studies have found direct evidence of discrimination. For example, fewer replies to identical resumes if sent by women with children than by men with children[27]:10 and more jobs for women when orchestras moved to blind auditions (though the data was mixed on this, since, in normal orchestra interviews, women were preferentially chosen over men for some instruments, such as the flute).[26]..."
    23 Kanter, Rosabeth Moss (4 August 2008). Men and Women of the Corporation. PublicAffairs. ISBN 978-0-7867-2384-3.
    24 Office of the White House, Council of Economic Advisors, 1998, IV. Discrimination
    25 Levine, Report for Congress, "The Gender Gap and Pay Equity: Is Comparable Worth the Next Step?", Congressional Research Service, Library of Congress, 2003
    26 "Justice Talking: The Women's Equality Amendment / What Does It Mean and Is It Necessary?". 2007-05-28. Retrieved 2012-03-13.
    27 United States Congress Joint Economic Committee. Invest in Women, Invest in America: A Comprehensive Review of Women in the U.S. Economy. Washington, DC, December 201
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    Re: Senate Blocks Pay Equity Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    And are they salaried or hourly? Work on commission for sure.

    They legally cant work more than 60 if hourly if not compensated by OT.
    Exempt employees don't get O/T, Non-Exempt do. In retail, they are mostly Non-Exempt, hence they go crazy if you hit overtime.
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    Re: Senate Blocks Pay Equity Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Exempt employees don't get O/T, Non-Exempt do. In retail, they are mostly Non-Exempt, hence they go crazy if you hit overtime.
    Exactly.
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    Re: Senate Blocks Pay Equity Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    No, but Americans' lives will be made worse for it.
    In what way?

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    Re: Senate Blocks Pay Equity Bill[W:38]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    This is what a Majority Leader McConnell has in store for women.
    And GOPs wonder why they have a gender problem.

    Senate blocks pay equity bill - Burgess Everett - POLITICO.com
    You do realize the democrats control the Senate?

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    Re: Senate Blocks Pay Equity Bill[W:38]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    You do realize the democrats control the Senate?
    Democrats = war on women. Ironic but not really.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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