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    Re: Daniele Watts says she was detained for ‘showing affection’

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The link I posted refers to California Penal Code §148(a)(1) which applies to both investigatory stops and non-investigatory stops.
    Not when it comes to identifying yourself, it doesn't. That law/code itself doesn't cover identifying yourself and whether that is or isn't a violation when someone refuses to do so. That was covered by a court case or policy, that specifically only mentions "stop and identify" situations, not situations where there is an ongoing investigation. In fact, the very fact that the code is written for situations where there is an actual investigation going on shows that it is not meant for only information contact stops, where no investigation is going on, at least not for California.
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    Re: Daniele Watts says she was detained for ‘showing affection’

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Not when it comes to identifying yourself, it doesn't. That law/code itself doesn't cover identifying yourself and whether that is or isn't a violation when someone refuses to do so. That was covered by a court case or policy, that specifically only mentions "stop and identify" situations, not situations where there is an ongoing investigation. In fact, the very fact that the code is written for situations where there is an actual investigation going on shows that it is not meant for only information contact stops, where no investigation is going on, at least not for California.
    The CA Peace Officer's Handbook covers it. It says that not showing ID can not be construed as obstruction.

    California does not have a statute mandating that a detainee identify himself, and that obligation cannot be read into Penal Code Section 148. (Rev. 1/08, p. 2.14a)
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    Re: Daniele Watts says she was detained for ‘showing affection’

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The CA Peace Officer's Handbook covers it. It says that not showing ID can not be construed as obstruction.
    As I've already said, then take it up with the Chief of Police there who said that she could. Did they? No, so... It doesn't matter anyway, because her other actions can lead to the charge.
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    Re: Daniele Watts says she was detained for ‘showing affection’

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    As I've already said, then take it up with the Chief of Police there who said that she could. Did they? No, so... It doesn't matter anyway, because her other actions can lead to the charge.
    IOW, I was right - not showing ID is not obstruction
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    Re: Daniele Watts says she was detained for ‘showing affection’

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    IOW, I was right - not showing ID is not obstruction
    Something that actual police in the area, the Chief of Police for example, are contradicting in their statements about this. So we don't actually know. There has not been a ruling on this concerning this particular issue so we wouldn't really know if it is true.
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    Re: Daniele Watts says she was detained for ‘showing affection’

    Charges have come down:

    Actress Daniele Watts charged with lewd conduct
    Actress Daniele Watts charged with lewd conduct

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