It seems to me that the "investigation" really began and ended with checking this woman's ID, which is to say there really wasn't an investigation. The officers should up to a complaint, there was no evidence one way or the other, but the woman didn't show the officers enough respect so they hassled her a little bit. I'm generally a polite person but I think everyone should be uncomfortable with the idea that if you don't show the police enough respect that they can hassle you. There was no real reason for them to slap the cuffs on this woman then stuff her in a squad car. They just didn't like her attitude.
But then why should I have to show respect for people who behave that way?
If they behaved that way in any other profession we would be calling them assholes.
[QUOTE=sangha;1063768207And again, there are more choices than "terry stop or arrest"[/QUOTE]
Really? What kind of seizure was this, if it wasn't either a Terry stop or an arrest? No need to get peevish. That should be an easy question for someone who knows the law as well as you have claimed to.
Last edited by shavingcollywob; 09-17-14 at 04:31 PM.
Her claim was that the only reason the cop was questioning her is because she was black. She also claimed to simply be sitting there minding her own business. In a nutshell, she lied about what was happening, played the race card and then turned on the dramatics.
Furthermore, if we look at a lot of these cases where there is an accusation of racial bias we'll most often find that the initial contact was due to a criminal act or a lawful investigation.
Conversation between Ms. Watts and Officer Parker..."There is no absolute requirement in California that a person carry ID or provide it just upon demand by a police officer," Beck said. "However, if you're being investigated for another offense and your identity is important to the investigation of that offense, then you must, by state law, comply with the legal authority of the officer -- which is to request your ID."
Attorney Dmitry Gorin said he believed the officers had the necessary reasonable suspicion to ask for identification. Refusing to obey an officer's commands during an investigation and walking away could also be considered obstruction of justice, he said.
“There is an easy way and a hard way in reality to deal with this situation. The officers can detain you in the back of a police car until they know who you are,” said Gorin, a defense attorney and former prosecutor. “They may want your identity to determine if you are on probation, have committed similar crimes or have an outstanding warrant."
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...916-story.htmlWatts insisted that the couple had done nothing wrong.
“Somebody called, which gives me the right to be here, so it gives me the right to identify you by law,” Parker said, according to the recording, portions of which were first published by celebrity news site TMZ.com.
“Do you know how many times I’ve been called, the cops have been called just for being black?” Watts said. “Just because we’re black and he’s white? I’m just being really honest, sir.”
“Who brought up the race card?” Parker said.
“I’m bringing it up,” she said.
“I said nothing about you being black,” the sergeant responded.
Parker said Watts walked away after refusing to provide her ID. He then radioed for the other officers to bring her back to the scene.
When Watts returned, she cried as she berated and cursed the police. She was released after Lucas handed police her ID, and officers determined the couple were not wanted on outstanding warrants.
In the audio, Parker told Watts the encounter would have lasted just a few minutes had she identified herself earlier. He pointed out that Lucas, who had been cooperative, had not been handcuffed.