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    ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    It appears we now have a major problem with BO's plans for a coalition, and in giving arms and training to the MB Sunni back Rebels. How do you think this affects what BO and Kerry were stating with regards to Syria? This alliance show Team BO and BO cannot trust who is on the ground in Syria. Which doesn't take into account how they want Assad gone as well. What will others in the newly formed Coalition say now? Will there be commitment? Can this be ignored and with Assad and Russia now knowing this bit of information? What say ye?



    According to Agence France-Presse, ISIS and a number of moderate and hard-line rebel groups have agreed not to fight each other so that they can focus on taking down the regime of Syrian President Bashar Assad. Other sources say the signatories include a major U.S. ally linked to the Free Syrian Army. The deal between ISIS and the moderate Syrian groups casts doubt over President Barack Obama's freshly announced strategy to arm and train the groups against ISIS. The AFP report cited information from the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a U.K.-based group monitoring the Syrian civil war, which said parties to the agreement "promise not to attack each other because they consider the principal enemy to be the Nussayri regime." The term Nussayri refers to the Alawite ethnic group that Assad and many of his supporters belong to. AFP said the agreement was signed in a suburb of the Syrian capital, where ISIS has a strong presence.

    Charles Lister, a fellow at the Brookings Institution's Doha Center, cited a report from the anti-regime Orient Net website to suggest on Twitter that the signatories of the ceasefire include a U.S.-backed coalition called the Syrian Revolutionary Front. According to the U.K.-based outlet Middle East Eye, that same Orient Net report says the ceasefire between groups described in the U.S. as "moderate rebels" and the Islamic State was mediated by the al-Nusra Front, al Qaeda's affiliate in Syria. This news suggests that partners will be hard to find. Lister said the pact is a product of failed U.S.-led Western policy in Syria."This underlines serious frustration w. lack of US-backing to [Free Syrian Army] opposition in fight vs Assad," he tweeted. If true, Landis said, the news of a ceasefire proves Washington does not know who it can support or trust within the fractured country.....snip~

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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    That turns a conflict that the White House hopes is three-sided -- with radical Sunnis, moderate Sunnis and Assad all battling each other -- into a sectarian, two-sided war of Sunnis against Assad. Reports already suggest that Syrians who entered the civil war opposing Assad are now turning to ISIS as their best bet for a different kind of government.....snip~

    Didn't BO just tell the American people, that ISIL is not Islamic and that they are not an Islamic State? Why are all these Syrians now turning to ISIL as their best bet for a different kind of government?

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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Time to play nice with Assad, maybe we can get him on our side.

    Some people are just so adamant to work with dictators even when it is out of necessity.

    We did it with Stalin, we can do it with Assad, and Stalin possibly killed more people in Ukraine in hardly a year than the Nazis killed Jews during the entire Holocaust.
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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    The biggest lesson not learned from the invasion of Iraq is that the tyrant you know, may be in power because he's the best fit for the population of the area he rules. Under Hussein, Iraq wasn't a particularly nice place to live but as far as we were concerned, controllable. Egypt under Mubarak, same thing. Libya under Kadaffi, likewise. We had a hand in removing all three tyrants and saw each nation devolve into chaos. Now I'm not sure why our government is at odds with Assad. One thing we do know however is that lots of the factions that oppose him are worse than he is. I think that the enemy of my enemy is my friend theory applies here.
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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    From Lebanon's Daily Star:

    Often at odds on the Syrian battlefields, the FSA, Nusra Front and ISIS have entered a tenuous allegiance of convenience to fight Assad-aligned forces in the badlands surrounding Arsal.

    “We are collaborating with the Islamic State and the Nusra Front by attacking the Syrian Army’s gatherings in ... Qalamoun,” said Bassel Idriss, the commander of an FSA-aligned rebel brigade.


    Frustration drives Arsal

    As I noted in my thoughts regarding the President's recent speech, I believe the U.S. is making a big error in stepping up assistance to Syria's sectarian factions. A better approach would entail ending all assistance to those groups. Otherwise, there will be leakage of weapons to ISIS and the effectiveness of U.S. airstrikes will be limited. Moreover, ISIS will be in a position to gain insight into U.S. tactics and training from rebels who might experience U.S. training.

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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    I agree that we should not step up assistance to any of these sectarian factions.

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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    From Lebanon's Daily Star:

    Often at odds on the Syrian battlefields, the FSA, Nusra Front and ISIS have entered a tenuous allegiance of convenience to fight Assad-aligned forces in the badlands surrounding Arsal.

    “We are collaborating with the Islamic State and the Nusra Front by attacking the Syrian Army’s gatherings in ... Qalamoun,” said Bassel Idriss, the commander of an FSA-aligned rebel brigade.


    Frustration drives Arsal

    As I noted in my thoughts regarding the President's recent speech, I believe the U.S. is making a big error in stepping up assistance to Syria's sectarian factions. A better approach would entail ending all assistance to those groups. Otherwise, there will be leakage of weapons to ISIS and the effectiveness of U.S. airstrikes will be limited. Moreover, ISIS will be in a position to gain insight into U.S. tactics and training from rebels who might experience U.S. training.

    Heya DS. BO and his Team have already sent Hellfire Missiles to Lebanon with Saudi funding. Some light aircraft too. This means Iran will get one and reverse engineer. Plus we know who else gets them.

    Naturally Assad and the Russian's have heard.

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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    So now you probably have arms and money which has been supplied by the West will now filter over to ISIS. Wonderful. this is just another proof that everytime the West attempts to intervene in regional conflicts its going to come back and bite them in the @$$.

    But quite a few posters in this forum will never get it, they will just keep agitating for more and more interventions. Some people never learn.

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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    So now you probably have arms and money which has been supplied by the West will now filter over to ISIS. Wonderful. this is just another proof that everytime the West attempts to intervene in regional conflicts its going to come back and bite them in the @$$.

    But quite a few posters in this forum will never get it, they will just keep agitating for more and more interventions. Some people never learn.

    That's why I have been saying for months these terrorists need to be taken out by everyone else. As then they could not spread and or create any other alliances.

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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I agree that we should not step up assistance to any of these sectarian factions.

    Heya NB. Yes, this will put quite a damper on some of BO's four pronged attack. Including assistance and where it will be going.

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