In your desire to connect what I originally said to Bush you've dragged Iraq back into the discussion, which applies only peripherally. American foreign policy has a long history of trying to mold the politics of various nations to fit American interests. Often the consequences resulted in the unintended consequences of good intentions. Carter didn't support the Shaw of Iran. He was replaced by religious zealots. Through history there is a long list of failed American intervention. We supported Bin Laden in his fight against the Russians in Afghanistan. I'm not saying that we should be totally isolationist but I think the time is over for nation building and preemptive war. If a nation acts aggressively against American interest, I support US aggression with no limits. If however a foreign leader is mistreating his own people, we probably should just let them work it out.
My comments aren't about Bush specifically, as much as you wish they were.
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury." Attributed to Alexander Tytler
You mean hows that jive with the Anti War crowd, liberals and Progressives that don't like BO doing that. As many I hear on the Right and Independents, don't have a problem with Others putting Boots on the ground. Just don't want to see US Boots. But then that's what Special Forces are for.....to help Lead the Way!
Yet again.....why is it that BO's top Commanders are telling him he will need to put boots on the ground. These are not Repubs. Did BO not tell them to come up with the Best Options available? Give him the Best Plan? Why do you always avoid BO's own people telling BO he will have to do.....just what he and his base doesn't want him to do.
What Obama and his leftists want to do is pretend to respond, the red line thrust out chin theory, where Americans put there lives at risk but there is no intention of ever winning. That's the case in Afghanistan as well, and why he o pulled all the troops from Iraq in 2011. Bush got 37 or 38 countries to join him in a Coalition and Barrack Hussein can't get any except that 'pocket full of mumbles such are promises'
How many more will now die as a result of this absolute fool's dithering decisions?
Last edited by Grant; 09-16-14 at 01:30 AM.
Oh and btw, you didn't follow the conversation between MMC and I very well, you think my comment on covert action, subterfuge and intrigue was about the Obama administration. Lol, I'm well aware that they have been engaged in that, all over the ME, Ukraine, Venezuela, etc.
Last edited by Montecresto; 09-16-14 at 08:48 AM.
Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy