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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    I beg to differ. Sure, we didn't eliminate al-Qaeda as an organization, but we smashed their ability to carry out terrorist attacks against America and caused them to break up into decentralized and quarreling factions that are too focused on local conflicts to pose a threat to the homeland. The central al-Qaeda leadership that planned 9/11 has virtually no credibility or strength at this point.
    Oh dear!

    Al Qaeda controls more territory than ever in Middle East

    http://edition.cnn.com/2014/01/07/op...rrority-gains/
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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Oh dear!

    Al Qaeda controls more territory than ever in Middle East

    http://edition.cnn.com/2014/01/07/op...rrority-gains/

    Now they even have more.....than just what is in the ME.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/war-te...rong-ship.html

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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    How do you know Al Qaeda isnt planning another attack on US soil? You dont. Since they are still around they will keep trying. It doesnt matter if it takes years, they have all the time in the world.

    And the bombings in Boston means they have many sympathizers who can carry it out so America isnt any safer.

    You want to put a stop to terrorism against America then stop meddling in other countries. Its as simple as that.
    Nothing like pointing out the obvious.
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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    This was from the NY Times April 27 2013.....giving us some detailed information on the Syrian Rebels/ Terrorists. Which now we will have the FSA and their SNC/STNC. The SLA, Al-Nusra, and what makes up the Syrian Opposition.
    The sectarian elements have been engaging in such practices since they first took up arms. That some in the U.S. Senate and also some pundits sincerely believe some of those groups are worthy of U.S. support has not been borne out by the facts.

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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    How do you know Al Qaeda isnt planning another attack on US soil? You dont. Since they are still around they will keep trying. It doesnt matter if it takes years, they have all the time in the world.

    And the bombings in Boston means they have many sympathizers who can carry it out so America isnt any safer.
    Did I say that we've magically put a stop to all terrorist threats forever? Before 9/11, al-Qaeda had a friendly regime that allowed it to set up terrorist training camps. It was the central leader of the global jihad movement: it's influence stretched from Sudan to Afghanistan. Today, it's been broken up into factions that are literally fighting for their survival wherever they are.

    You want to put a stop to terrorism against America then stop meddling in other countries. Its as simple as that.
    Nonsense. We weren't "meddling" in Afghanistan when al-Qaeda set up a foothold there, and there are plenty of non-interventionist countries that experience terror attacks.
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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    You have not learned the lesson grasshopper. The lesson was about the acceptance of tyranny and despots, not about the invasion of Iraq.
    Master, you have said that one day the student would be faster, quicker, stronger, smarter and wiser than the master and on that day, the student will become the master. That day has arrived.....

    Clearly you have not yet learned that Iraq was not about tyranny, for if you knew you history, you would realize its never about tyranny with the US. Surely you should be aware of America's long history of befriending, supporting and even installing tyrants and despots. You, master, have not seen the slight of hand of the enemy.

    United States support of authoritarian regimes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    You did not see the head fake of the previous president. He had people believing it was about tryranny, depots and weapons of mass destruction, when it was anything but. He had a much more cleaver scheme brewing that only the wise could see. He was diabolical in that his moves were about his presidential legacy. His neocon friends had convinced him that he could be remember as the great one: the one that changed the middle east forever, but turning out kings, shahs, sheiks and dictators and replacing them with the will of the people by starting a tsunami of democracy in Iraq.

    http://carnegieendowment.org/files/Policybrief20.pdf
    Democracy and Demagoguery in the Middle East | Cato Institute
    Islamist Terrorism and Democracy in the Middle East - Katerina Dalacoura - Google Books
    The Real Reason for Bush's Invasion of Iraq Is a National Security Secret by Paul Craig Roberts on Creators.com - A Syndicate Of Talent


    This odd belief that Iraq, being one of the most educated, yet most repressed of the middle eastern countries would suddenly embrace democracy... and this it would be so successful that dictators, kingdoms and tyrants would give way to the will of the people. Though noble; it was terribly naive. Instead, the hornets nest was kicked and.... well, we are still fighting hornets.
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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    Did I say that we've magically put a stop to all terrorist threats forever? Before 9/11, al-Qaeda had a friendly regime that allowed it to set up terrorist training camps. It was the central leader of the global jihad movement: it's influence stretched from Sudan to Afghanistan. Today, it's been broken up into factions that are literally fighting for their survival wherever they are.
    What you dont seem to get is that Al Qaeda is not a monolithic entity that constantly sends terror teams to attack us, they mutate constantly everytime we try to take them down and in fact their biggest threat is not a direct attack (they've done less than half a dozen in a decade) but rather their ability to influence other groups or individuals to attack America. Iraq, Libya and Syria has been destabilized thanks to our meddling and now even more extreme terror groups that have the same agenda as Al Qaeda will now be poised to attack us, lets not even include American and British citizens who have been radicalized by what we've done and can strike us directly in our own borders...

    So no, AQ's influence has grown and youre too blind to see it.

    Nonsense. We weren't "meddling" in Afghanistan when al-Qaeda set up a foothold there, and there are plenty of non-interventionist countries that experience terror attacks.
    We were meddling in Afghanistan- you didnt know about the CIA supporting the Afghan warlords when the Soviets attempted an occupation?

    Name me some non-interventionist countries that experienced terror attacks then.

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    What would you do now?
    I could probably start a different thread on that in another forum...

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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    What you dont seem to get is that Al Qaeda is not a monolithic entity that constantly sends terror teams to attack us, they mutate constantly everytime we try to take them down and in fact their biggest threat is not a direct attack (they've done less than half a dozen in a decade) but rather their ability to influence other groups or individuals to attack America. Iraq, Libya and Syria has been destabilized thanks to our meddling and now even more extreme terror groups that have the same agenda as Al Qaeda will now be poised to attack us, lets not even include American and British citizens who have been radicalized by what we've done and can strike us directly in our own borders...

    So no, AQ's influence has grown and youre too blind to see it.


    We were meddling in Afghanistan- you didnt know about the CIA supporting the Afghan warlords when the Soviets attempted an occupation?

    Name me some non-interventionist countries that experienced terror attacks then.


    I could probably start a different thread on that in another forum...
    Bangaldesh, and Japan I would think are two today.

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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Bangaldesh, and Japan I would think are two today.
    Morning to you MMC! The Japanese attacks were a domestic doomsday cult. Also, intervention needn't be just military.
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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    I could probably start a different thread on that in another forum...
    This thread could include a 'what would you do now' question. Do you have idea what the west should do now in response to ISIS Striking a Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels?

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