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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    If we supported them they would fight ISIS, they've more or less said as much for years now. It isn't surprising that beleaguered fighters would avail themselves of an opportunity to reduce pressure against them.
    I don't agree. FSA has been receiving U.S. support. Before that, it was receiving support from various Arab states.

    FSA is just another sectarian actor in Syria's conflict. It has had ample time to try to distinguish itself as a viable and better alternative and hasn't. All of those armed elements, along with the Assad dictatorship, have repeatedly shown little respect for civilian protections. This disregard is common in ethnic or sectarian conflicts, and that's the kind of conflict that is gripping Syria.

    Weapons leakage from the FSA and other armed groups has been a problem long before now. Contrary to the idealistic myths put forth by its supporters, most notably Senator McCain, the FSA has never been very reliable. It has frequently shifted ties, including collaborating with the Al Qaeda-affiliated Nusra Front in the past. Its choice to partner with ISIS with full knowledge of ISIS's practices, goals, and attempted genocide against the Yazidis vividly illustrates that reality.

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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    I don't agree. FSA has been receiving U.S. support. Before that, it was receiving support from various Arab states.

    FSA is just another sectarian actor in Syria's conflict. It has had ample time to try to distinguish itself as a viable and better alternative and hasn't. All of those armed elements, along with the Assad dictatorship, have repeatedly shown little respect for civilian protections. This disregard is common in ethnic or sectarian conflicts, and that's the kind of conflict that is gripping Syria.

    Weapons leakage from the FSA and other armed groups has been a problem long before now. Contrary to the idealistic myths put forth by its supporters, most notably Senator McCain, the FSA has never been very reliable. It has frequently shifted ties, including collaborating with the Al Qaeda-affiliated Nusra Front in the past. Its choice to partner with ISIS with full knowledge of ISIS's practices, goals, and attempted genocide against the Yazidis vividly illustrates that reality.


    This was from the NY Times April 27 2013.....giving us some detailed information on the Syrian Rebels/ Terrorists. Which now we will have the FSA and their SNC/STNC. The SLA, Al-Nusra, and what makes up the Syrian Opposition.

    Islamist Rebels Create Dilemma on Syria Policy

    In Syria’s largest city, Aleppo, rebels aligned with Al Qaeda control the power plant, run the bakeries and head a court that applies Islamic law. Elsewhere, they have seized government oil fields, put employees back to work and now profit from the crude they produce. Across Syria, rebel-held areas are dotted with Islamic courts staffed by lawyers and clerics, and by fighting brigades led by extremists. Even the Supreme Military Council, the umbrella rebel organization whose formation the West had hoped would sideline radical groups, is stocked with commanders who want to infuse Islamic law into a future Syrian government.

    Nowhere in rebel-controlled Syria is there a secular fighting force to speak of.....snip~

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/middle...-w-90-a-2.html



    We have had pretty much all the beginning info on the Syrian Rebels.....and what they are all about. Moreover BO knows exactly what he was giving them. They still couldn't get the job done. Infighting and then Assad.

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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    I don't agree. FSA has been receiving U.S. support. Before that, it was receiving support from various Arab states.

    FSA is just another sectarian actor in Syria's conflict. It has had ample time to try to distinguish itself as a viable and better alternative and hasn't. All of those armed elements, along with the Assad dictatorship, have repeatedly shown little respect for civilian protections. This disregard is common in ethnic or sectarian conflicts, and that's the kind of conflict that is gripping Syria.

    Weapons leakage from the FSA and other armed groups has been a problem long before now. Contrary to the idealistic myths put forth by its supporters, most notably Senator McCain, the FSA has never been very reliable. It has frequently shifted ties, including collaborating with the Al Qaeda-affiliated Nusra Front in the past. Its choice to partner with ISIS with full knowledge of ISIS's practices, goals, and attempted genocide against the Yazidis vividly illustrates that reality.


    Oh heya DS. Remember this from back in Dec of 2012? Right after BO won his re-election. Did BO and his team still want to say they didn't know anything? Still running away from with what he sent from Libya, huh? Well this is back when many of the MB backed Rebels Pledged against US intervention.


    Syrian rebels defy US and pledge allegiance to jihadi group.....



    A total of 29 opposition groups, including fighting "brigades" and civilian committees, have signed a petition calling for mass demonstrations in support of Jabhat al-Nusra, an Islamist group which the White House believes is an offshoot of al-Qaeda in Iraq.
    The petition is promoting the slogan "No to American intervention, for we are all Jabhat al-Nusra" and urges supporters to "raise the Jabhat al-Nusra flag" as a "thank you". "These are the men for the people of Syria, these are the heroes who belong to us in religion, in blood and in revolution," read a statement widely circulated on Syrian opposition Facebook pages.

    Although Jabhat al-Nusra remains separate from the Free Syrian Army, many FSA leaders now recognise its strength and order their forces to cooperate with it.....snip~

    Syrian rebels defy US and pledge allegiance to jihadi group - Telegraph

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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. The US fecklessness in their ME policy over the last several years has left even the pro-West rebels with only one option: They trust ISIS threats more than they trust US promises.
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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. The US fecklessness in their ME policy over the last several years has left even the pro-West rebels with only one option: They trust ISIS threats more than they trust US promises.
    Mornin' JM.....yeah I have been hanging on to this lil article for some time. That was when BO and his Team designated al Nusra to the Terror List. So from 2012.....until now. BO kept giving aid and assistance to these Guys.

    Gladiator had up a thread about how BO then last year ordered 600 million more in direct aid to them. Which was when Assad started mopping them up.

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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    For the love of all that is holy can we just leave? Who cares? Let them kill each other for a new caliphate. We just gotta deal with them when they are a threat to us. So covert stuff.
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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    For the love of all that is holy can we just leave? Who cares? Let them kill each other for a new caliphate. We just gotta deal with them when they are a threat to us. So covert stuff.
    Heya Stonewall. Well at least lets show what BO and his Team was doing and knew about. Why things just aren't so coincidincy. You know how the BO-Bots get when bad news surrounds BO. Always keep it fresh for them. Just sayin.

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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I'll tell you why.....its about giving the Sunni another country to govern. It falls back to the same idea these terrorists have. Except with the Sunni and the Saud its about a United States of Islam.....just like Gadhafi's idea on a United States of Africa. Note once he started getting the backing how the West turned on him. Naturally that was a major threat to the Saud and Sunni's Grand Plan.....and could not be allowed into the scheme of things. It would be the so called Moderates new life with their version of Democracy.

    Assad is the thorn that sticks into that Sunni Arab and the Saud's Side. Can't gain control of the Region without removing him and taking what Oil he has left.
    Yes, makes perfect sense.
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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Stonewall. Well at least lets show what BO and his Team was doing and knew about. Why things just aren't so coincidincy. You know how the BO-Bots get when bad news surrounds BO. Always keep it fresh for them. Just sayin.
    Yea. They start threads about Sarah Palin getting into a fight or whatever. That is "newsworthy." Lol.
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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    "Truces" don't really mean much in the Middle East. I find it unlikely that this ceasefire will last more than two or three weeks, and I wouldn't be surprised if ISIS is the first to break it.
    And whether they do or not, they'll certainly be blamed for such.
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