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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    I beg to differ. Sure, we didn't eliminate al-Qaeda as an organization, but we smashed their ability to carry out terrorist attacks against America and caused them to break up into decentralized and quarreling factions that are too focused on local conflicts to pose a threat to the homeland. The central al-Qaeda leadership that planned 9/11 has virtually no credibility or strength at this point.
    How do you know Al Qaeda isnt planning another attack on US soil? You dont. Since they are still around they will keep trying. It doesnt matter if it takes years, they have all the time in the world.

    And the bombings in Boston means they have many sympathizers who can carry it out so America isnt any safer.

    You want to put a stop to terrorism against America then stop meddling in other countries. Its as simple as that.

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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    So now you probably have arms and money which has been supplied by the West will now filter over to ISIS. Wonderful. this is just another proof that everytime the West attempts to intervene in regional conflicts its going to come back and bite them in the @$$.

    But quite a few posters in this forum will never get it, they will just keep agitating for more and more interventions. Some people never learn.
    You know ... I was just thinking the same thing about some of our isolationists who fail to recognize the failures of the current administration.

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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    How do you know Al Qaeda isnt planning another attack on US soil? You dont. Since they are still around they will keep trying. It doesnt matter if it takes years, they have all the time in the world.

    And the bombings in Boston means they have many sympathizers who can carry it out so America isnt any safer.

    You want to put a stop to terrorism against America then stop meddling in other countries. Its as simple as that.

    You know what's sad? I think you actually believe this bullsh*t.

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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    It appears we now have a major problem with BO's plans for a coalition, and in giving arms and training to the MB Sunni back Rebels. How do you think this affects what BO and Kerry were stating with regards to Syria? This alliance show Team BO and BO cannot trust who is on the ground in Syria. Which doesn't take into account how they want Assad gone as well. What will others in the newly formed Coalition say now? Will there be commitment? Can this be ignored and with Assad and Russia now knowing this bit of information? What say ye?



    According to Agence France-Presse, ISIS and a number of moderate and hard-line rebel groups have agreed not to fight each other so that they can focus on taking down the regime of Syrian President Bashar Assad. Other sources say the signatories include a major U.S. ally linked to the Free Syrian Army. The deal between ISIS and the moderate Syrian groups casts doubt over President Barack Obama's freshly announced strategy to arm and train the groups against ISIS. The AFP report cited information from the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a U.K.-based group monitoring the Syrian civil war, which said parties to the agreement "promise not to attack each other because they consider the principal enemy to be the Nussayri regime." The term Nussayri refers to the Alawite ethnic group that Assad and many of his supporters belong to. AFP said the agreement was signed in a suburb of the Syrian capital, where ISIS has a strong presence.

    Charles Lister, a fellow at the Brookings Institution's Doha Center, cited a report from the anti-regime Orient Net website to suggest on Twitter that the signatories of the ceasefire include a U.S.-backed coalition called the Syrian Revolutionary Front. According to the U.K.-based outlet Middle East Eye, that same Orient Net report says the ceasefire between groups described in the U.S. as "moderate rebels" and the Islamic State was mediated by the al-Nusra Front, al Qaeda's affiliate in Syria. This news suggests that partners will be hard to find. Lister said the pact is a product of failed U.S.-led Western policy in Syria."This underlines serious frustration w. lack of US-backing to [Free Syrian Army] opposition in fight vs Assad," he tweeted. If true, Landis said, the news of a ceasefire proves Washington does not know who it can support or trust within the fractured country.....snip~

    ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports
    If we supported them they would fight ISIS, they've more or less said as much for years now. It isn't surprising that beleaguered fighters would avail themselves of an opportunity to reduce pressure against them.

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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Why don't we make a deal with ISIS, we will give them someone to behead every week (some convicted murderer or serial pedophile or something) and they will leave everyone else alone (and we will find something else for Obama and the Neocons to keep their little hands busy).

    I mean, why don't they just admit it...they don't care about religion or conquering territory...they just get off hacking people's heads off - it's their thing.

    Heck, maybe America could contract out for a few to take the place of capital punishment.

    Might act as a bit more of a deterrent for potential murderers in America.


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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by GBFAN View Post
    You know what's sad? I think you actually believe this bullsh*t.
    Whats sad is you dont. You still think we could somehow keep meddling in the Middle east and win.

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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by GBFAN View Post
    You know what's sad? I think you actually believe this bullsh*t.
    I have two words for anyone who thinks that major terrorist acts can be eliminated from America by attacking ISIS.

    Timothy McVeigh.

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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    How do you know Al Qaeda isnt planning another attack on US soil? You dont. Since they are still around they will keep trying. It doesnt matter if it takes years, they have all the time in the world.

    And the bombings in Boston means they have many sympathizers who can carry it out so America isnt any safer.

    You want to put a stop to terrorism against America then stop meddling in other countries. Its as simple as that.
    It's too late for that. They see the west's weakness and will continue to recruit and expand.

    The problem is not the 'meddling', it's leaving before the job is complete. This has been happening since WWI and continues to this day.

    Because of all the halfway measures in the past we have arrived at the point where only by fighting terror with extraordinary measures can the west hope to win and finally put a halt to this.

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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    We've been fighting Al Qaeda for over a decade and we have yet to take them out. Its obvious that a military solution isnt the answer and hasnt been for years.
    What would you do now?

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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    I don't think the President is trying to make his Secretary of State look bad. Instead, I believe the issue is a far bigger one and illustrates the lack of serious thinking that was given to the planning. Hence, there is no consistent message, a broad alliance was assumed before efforts were made to put it into place (minimalist contributions were attained afterward but no roles clearly defined and NATO member Turkey has refused to help out despite its being a beneficiary of the NATO alliance and generous humanitarian assistance to deal with war refugees), FSA and other sectarian groups were viewed as a solution when, in fact, they are a big part of the problem, and states with large shared interests in defeating ISIS who could be helpful in this particular case (Russia and Iran) were largely or wholly excluded, etc. Aside from a reasonable end goal and some building blocks i.e., aid to the Kurdish forces, Iraqi forces, counterterrorism, and air strikes, what was laid out as a plan hasn't really been vetted meaningfully. Barring changes, that lack of vetting probably increases the probability of a muddled outcome in which ISIS will be dented but far from destroyed in the near-term and perhaps through the rest of the President's term.
    It's muddled because there is no leadership in the democracies and a perfect time for ISIS to expand and recruit. Perhaps the UK will supply some leadership now that they've lost a man, or the French could play a role, but without American leadership it will be difficult to organize a serious coalition of any sort.

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