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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    That's why I have been saying for months these terrorists need to be taken out by everyone else. As then they could not spread and or create any other alliances.
    We've been fighting Al Qaeda for over a decade and we have yet to take them out. Its obvious that a military solution isnt the answer and hasnt been for years.

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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    That's why I have been saying for months these terrorists need to be taken out by everyone else. As then they could not spread and or create any other alliances.
    exactly correct. Obama uses the term "counter-terrorism" for Syria;
    it's not - it's the same stale counter-insurgency (so called nation building)
    Let the US supply air power, and weapons to the Kurds -directly to the Kurds. Iraq Army has to do much better. But the US/coalition can't do this from the outside.
    For Syria the target is ISIL, not "assad must go". we can't control the outcome of the war, don't pretend we can. It will bite us if we do,

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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    "Truces" don't really mean much in the Middle East. I find it unlikely that this ceasefire will last more than two or three weeks, and I wouldn't be surprised if ISIS is the first to break it.
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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    "Truces" don't really mean much in the Middle East. I find it unlikely that this ceasefire will last more than two or three weeks, and I wouldn't be surprised if ISIS is the first to break it.
    maybe the united states should try speeding up that process.
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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    We've been fighting Al Qaeda for over a decade and we have yet to take them out. Its obvious that a military solution isnt the answer and hasnt been for years.
    I beg to differ. Sure, we didn't eliminate al-Qaeda as an organization, but we smashed their ability to carry out terrorist attacks against America and caused them to break up into decentralized and quarreling factions that are too focused on local conflicts to pose a threat to the homeland. The central al-Qaeda leadership that planned 9/11 has virtually no credibility or strength at this point.
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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    maybe the united states should try speeding up that process.
    Agreed. The US should threaten to cut off all aid to the rebels unless they abandon their truce with ISIS. If that doesn't work, then I'm probably going to abandon my previous advocacy of supporting the rebels and advocate that we throw our support to the Kurds in the north or abandon Syria entirely.
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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    Agreed. The US should threaten to cut off all aid to the rebels unless they abandon their truce with ISIS. If that doesn't work, then I'm probably going to abandon my previous advocacy of supporting the rebels and advocate that we throw our support to the Kurds in the north or abandon Syria entirely.
    that was not what i was talking about, although it might be a better suggestion then what i had in my mind.

    my suggestion was to make ISIS turn upon itself, by using deception and subterfuge.
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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Oops.

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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Oops.
    i guess they will have to be taught the hard way to recognise that any relationship with isis is going to end in pain.
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    Re: ISIS Strikes Deal With Moderate Syrian Rebels: Reports.....

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    We've been fighting Al Qaeda for over a decade and we have yet to take them out. Its obvious that a military solution isnt the answer and hasnt been for years.
    I could have told you that at the onset of the "War on Terror".

    There are some military objectives you can achieve against terrorist networks. After all, they need some sort of infrastructure to coordinate attacks and such. But they're so rag-tag that there's only so much you can realistically do with a military.

    The real threat is the ideas they embrace, and attempt to spread. A war on terror should be a war of ideology--not smart bombs and drones. We diminish the threat by removing causes for them to hate us, or even by giving them reasons to like us. Make it harder for al Qaeda's propaganda machine and their ranks will diminish, and the threat towards us will diminish.

    This is also why I'm not all that against helping rebels when they choose to fight someone who really does treat them badly. Go in, support those people in their goals, then get out. Even if the country falls into chaos, the people will remember that we helped them. In other words, we should go where we're invited and leave when we're no longer welcome. The Middle East isn't our house. If we're there in irresponsible ways, we'll make enemies.

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