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    Re: Classified pages of a 9/11 report may implicate key ally

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    And, along with Qatar, are funding extremists in Syria.
    From what I know about state sponsored terrorism, Qatar and Iran are probably the world's worst.
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    Re: Classified pages of a 9/11 report may implicate key ally

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    Remember where the 911 terrorists were from?
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    Re: Classified pages of a 9/11 report may implicate key ally

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    From what I know about state sponsored terrorism, Qatar and Iran are probably the world's worst.
    Iran isn't an American allie, so the people who hate America are going to defend them.
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    Re: Classified pages of a 9/11 report may implicate key ally

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    I've always been kind of struck by the cozy relationship with the bin Laden family, and how they were never questioned about Osama, and how Saudi's were the only civilians to get air clearance...

    What's that all about? Michael Moore says its about oil money and the Bushes, but I suspect something more sinister
    Unfortunately, it isn't some sinister plot, coercion or conspiracy. It's just willful ignorance, by ignoring truth, to allow the US to have influence in the area. Not so much oil, as influence. The US ignores a lot of bad things around the world to maintain influence. Saudi Arabia is no different. That influence translates to airfields, shipping security and a military presence in the region. The same reason we ignore the Bahrainis, the Yemenis and all the others in that region that allow us influence.

    It's basic International Relations. Moore sees profit as the motive behind every bad thing that happens. It isn't that simple.
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    Re: Classified pages of a 9/11 report may implicate key ally

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I doubt any of that info ever existed. You can't keep anything secret now-a-days.

    What we're seeing, are Saudis participating in and supporting terrorism, not the Saudi government. Where the confusion comes in, I'm not sure.
    It's true that I can't keep anything secret now-a-days, but there are people in the world who do one helluvalot better at it than I am.

    Some folks can keep things secret, though the term is a relative one and not absolute. Otherwise, you're right about just who in Saudi society might be playing in the weapons trade.

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    Re: Classified pages of a 9/11 report may implicate key ally

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Unfortunately, it isn't some sinister plot, coercion or conspiracy. It's just willful ignorance, by ignoring truth, to allow the US to have influence in the area. Not so much oil, as influence. The US ignores a lot of bad things around the world to maintain influence. Saudi Arabia is no different. That influence translates to airfields, shipping security and a military presence in the region. The same reason we ignore the Bahrainis, the Yemenis and all the others in that region that allow us influence.

    It's basic International Relations. Moore sees profit as the motive behind every bad thing that happens. It isn't that simple.
    I agree with you. And the purpose for wanting those bases, clear shipping and influence, is to ensure the uninterrupted flow of oil.

    (CNN) -- Yes, the Iraq War was a war for oil, and it was a war with winners: Big Oil.
    It has been 10 years since Operation Iraqi Freedom's bombs first landed in Baghdad. And while most of the U.S.-led coalition forces have long since gone, Western oil companies are only getting started.


    The man once regarded as the world's most powerful banker has bluntly declared that the Iraq war was 'largely' about oil.
    Appointed by Ronald Reagan in 1987 and retired last year after serving four presidents, Alan Greenspan has been the leading Republican economist for a generation and his utterings instantly moved world markets.

    In his long-awaited memoir - out tomorrow in the US - Greenspan, 81, who served as chairman of the US Federal Reserve for almost two decades, writes: 'I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil.'

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/200...q.iraqtimeline
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    Re: Classified pages of a 9/11 report may implicate key ally

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    From what I know about state sponsored terrorism, Qatar and Iran are probably the world's worst.
    Professor William Odom, formerly President Reagan's NSA Director wrote:

    As many critics have pointed, out, terrorism is not an enemy. It is a tactic. Because the United States itself has a long record of supporting terrorists and using terrorist tactics, the slogans of today's war on terrorism merely makes the United States look hypocritical to the rest of the world.[22]

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite...tate_terrorism
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    Re: Classified pages of a 9/11 report may implicate key ally

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I doubt any of that info ever existed. You can't keep anything secret now-a-days.

    What we're seeing, are Saudis participating in and supporting terrorism, not the Saudi government. Where the confusion comes in, I'm not sure.
    Why are you so in love with the Saudi government, is it because your hero held hands and kissed their asses uh...I mean lips?

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    Re: Classified pages of a 9/11 report may implicate key ally

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Why are you so in love with the Saudi government, is it because your hero held hands and kissed their asses uh...I mean lips?
    Just...wow! You people will believe anything!

    I'm not in love with the Saudi government. They're Muslims and I hate Muslims. I am a big fan of facts and there aren't any facts to support the accusation that the Saudi government funds terrorists.
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    Re: Classified pages of a 9/11 report may implicate key ally

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I doubt any of that info ever existed. You can't keep anything secret now-a-days.

    What we're seeing, are Saudis participating in and supporting terrorism, not the Saudi government. Where the confusion comes in, I'm not sure.
    It's not confusion. Evidence directly points to the Saudi government & royalty.

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