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Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

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Paleocon said:
No, the Roman Inquisition (since renamed) is sufficient.

If one really believes that Christianity is the true religion established for the salvation of the world, then one logically should desire the prohibition of public denigrations of it.



Even blarg understood what I meant.
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Desire is reasonable. We can all desire things to be different. Wanting the government to handle this type of issue in such a severe way is a dangerous precedent.
 
Paleocon said:
No, the Roman Inquisition (since renamed) is sufficient.

If one really believes that Christianity is the true religion established for the salvation of the world, then one logically should desire the prohibition of public denigrations of it.



Even blarg understood what I meant.
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a God whose minions feel their lord is impotent to punish insults against him is not a God worth having
 
Paleocon said:
Of course not. That would be logical, which we are not.
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Ah so then it would be logical for my sisters to punish you for violating their Wiccan religious views.

Hard Truth said:
Desecration laws protecting the USA's flag have been ruled unconstitutional. The Supremes correctly recognized in that decision that one's freedom of expression can't be abridged just because it offends many people. (except public nudity and lewdness and indecency on broadcast TV and radio) The desecration law that he kid is charged with is not based on ownership of the symbol, only on whether someone is offended. They charged the kid with desecration because they couldn't get away with another charge such as trespassing or vandalism.
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In regards to the flag SCOTUS was defiantly correct. The ownership of a given flag ultimately determines what is allowed to happen to it. I can still get into legal trouble burning my own flag should it cause other damage to property mot my own, but as I noted the flag burning in and of itself is not and never should have been illegal. For the statue, placing aside I've not yet seen specifically where it is located, trespass is probably still viable. Given that it belongs to someone other than the kid, desecration is still a viable choice. If that was his own family's statue, this would never have come an issue of law. Vandalism would be dependent upon the local law's definition.
 
Paleocon said:
He committed a heinous act of blasphemy.
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One person's blasphemy is another person's hilarity. Fortunately we live in a nation with a secular system of law, so people like yourself can't oppress those who would find this funny.

That isn't to say I personally found it funny, but I'm actually more offended by your position on it.
 
The Christian taliban is here.
 
Kobie said:
Which is not against the law, nor should it be.
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agree.

Now go tell that to a certain radical group in the ME. Seems they got a bit upset if anyone is disrespectful to their god.:mrgreen:
 
Paleocon said:
Even blarg understood what I meant.
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Unless you were being sarcastic I understand what you mean. What you mean is allah akbar throw the infidel in prison for insulting my religion allah akbar.
 
maquiscat said:
Ah so then it would be logical for my sisters to punish you for violating their Wiccan religious views.



In regards to the flag SCOTUS was defiantly correct. The ownership of a given flag ultimately determines what is allowed to happen to it. I can still get into legal trouble burning my own flag should it cause other damage to property mot my own, but as I noted the flag burning in and of itself is not and never should have been illegal. For the statue, placing aside I've not yet seen specifically where it is located, trespass is probably still viable. Given that it belongs to someone other than the kid, desecration is still a viable choice. If that was his own family's statue, this would never have come an issue of law. Vandalism would be dependent upon the local law's definition.
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only if you can round up 11 different alleged accounts saying the wiccan views cause miracles

remember kids 11 claims of testimony or it did not happen


but if you get that then it logically must be true as long as no one can give definite motivations for why the 11 would lie(assuming the 11 witness are legit which you must)
 
Paleocon said:
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Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue | The Smoking Gun



I find it disgusting that this is a misdemeanor. It ought to be punished by imprisonment.
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Why? It's just a statue.

Paleocon said:
He committed a heinous act of blasphemy.
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But consider this commandment "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above"

Is not that statue itself blasphemous?
 
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mike2810 said:
agree.

Now go tell that to a certain radical group in the ME. Seems they got a bit upset if anyone is disrespectful to their god.:mrgreen:
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Well, **** those guys too. Twice.
 
The Bedford county DA Bill Higgins has apparently been busy using this incident to post "Christianity under attack!!" facebook posts.

"I guess I should take solace in the fact that the liberals are mad at me—again. As for this case, this troubled young man offended the sensibilities and morals of OUR community.… His actions constitute a violation of the law, and he will be prosecuted accordingly. If that tends to upset the 'anti-Christian, ban-school-prayer, war-on-Christmas, oppose-display-of-Ten-Commandments' crowd, I make no apologies."

http://www.newsweek.com/christianity-under-attack-teen-faces-jail-lewd-pose-jesus-statue-270120




Meanwhile, the same married District Attorney has been accused of sexually assaulting a woman in July.

Bedford DA: Sex in office no crime - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette


Classic.
 
Religious people can be so ridiculously touchy.

People?

It's a STATUE. Made of stone or rock or marble or some other mineral.

It's just a thing.

Lighten up...sheesh.
 
Peter King said:
Was the statue damaged? No, so give him a big fine and a warning not to do it again or he will get an even bigger fine or a suspended jail sentence and send him on his way.
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Take his cell phone away.;)
 
DA60 said:
Religious people can be so ridiculously touchy.

People?

It's a STATUE. Made of stone or rock or marble or some other mineral.

It's just a thing.

Lighten up...sheesh.
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What would Jesus say?

"Dude, why would you care about a statue of me? Why even have one? Now stop the silliness and help me with the sick, homeless, and hungry. Priorities people!"
 
blarg said:
only if you can round up 11 different alleged accounts saying the wiccan views cause miracles

remember kids 11 claims of testimony or it did not happen


but if you get that then it logically must be true as long as no one can give definite motivations for why the 11 would lie(assuming the 11 witness are legit which you must)
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Coming up with dozens of witnesses for any sort or miracle (Christian, Jewish, Islamic, Wiccan, etc) is really not that hard to come by. It's people accepting their testimony, or documentation of said testimony, that is the rarity. Even the Resurrection can be written off as a mass (or multiple if you prefer depending on how you want to apply the numbers) hallucination as scientifically it is something that cannot be reproduced. Of course this is the very definition of a miracle. Additionally, I could produce a number of fictional works, written as witness testimony, that in a mere few decades people would not be able to tell that the work was fiction or miracle itself. In less than a century, they could start a dozen new religions, that believers would think dated back hundreds or thousands or years.
 
Paleocon said:
..Unless of course you are claiming that the state of Pennsylvania is guilty of violating the First Amendment and therefore divine law, in which case I would point out that, according to the Angelic Doctor, unjust laws are not in fact laws but corruptions of law, and therefore do not bind.
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I claim that the Pennsyvania law is unconstitional and if the case is appealed it will probably be struck down. It is easier to argue a legitimate government interest in banning flag desecration compared to desecration of religious objects, but the Supreme Court correctly ruled that the first amendment should prevail over protection of symbols.

There is no divine law.
 
I think the progressives here really don't care about this issue NOT because the kid has First Amendment rights but because they hate Christianity, and that is more disturbing to me than the kid in the picture.
 
Mr.Nick said:
I think the progressives here really don't care about this issue NOT because the kid has First Amendment rights but because they hate Christianity, and that is more disturbing to me than the kid in the picture.
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I'll let Gandhi answer that one:

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
 
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