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Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

Brich said:
I pray for you. I wonder if you make fun of Muslims......
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Absolutely, they're just as delusional as Christians.

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Paleocon said:
And yet this conduct still broke the law.
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Which is irrelevant to the fact that this was a religious statue. A venerated object could include a civil war canon or a statue of MLK.
 
VanceMack said:
DESECRATION OF VENERATED OBJECT

Any person who commits the offense of desecration of a venerated object is guilty of a crime.

For you to find the defendant guilty of this offense, the state must have proven beyond a reasonable doubt the existence of the following essential elements:1

[Part A:

(1) that the defendant desecrated a place of [worship] [burial];

and

(2) that the defendant acted intentionally.]

or

[Part B:

(1) that the defendant desecrated a [state] [national] flag;

and

(2) that the defendant acted intentionally.]

"Desecrate" means defacing, damaging, polluting or otherwise physically mistreating in a way that the person knows or should know will outrage the sensibilities of an ordinary individual likely to observe or discover the person's action.2

"Intentionally" means that a person acts intentionally with respect to the nature of the conduct or to a result of the conduct when it is the person's conscious objective or desire to engage in the conduct or cause the result.3
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Ok everyone return to their homes, cut and dryed and case closed!!! VanceMack FTW!!!
 
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Gringo allstar said:
Ok everyone return to their homes, cut and dryed and case closed!!! VanceMack FTW!!!
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Id like to thank my family, all my fans, my Danish Demigod, and of course Google.
 
Paleocon said:
Warning: Extremely offensive image in link

Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue | The Smoking Gun



I find it disgusting that this is a misdemeanor. It ought to be punished by imprisonment.
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And after he gets out of jail he will go right back to the statue for the second coming.

Seriously. Yeah, the kid should not have done it. If it is an offense against God, and you believe in such things.....there will be judgment. But please, the fact that you think it should be a felony shows that you are looking to live in a theocracy. Wasting

Here is the headline ---- STUPID KID DOES STUPID PRANK TO PUT UP ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

Here is the punishment. Kid goes to find a job and his employer does a search and finds it.
 
Yep. And that's going to be punishment enough.

Besides, after "Piss Christ," I think most people are not easily shocked, just disappointed.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
It's blasphemy, there are no degrees to blasphemy.
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No it's not. It's cursing at worse, but probably just swearing and profanity. Evil, but certainly far short of this.

jamesrage said:
I meant to say middle east.
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Ok. What was your point?

year2late said:
And after he gets out of jail he will go right back to the statue for the second coming.

Seriously. Yeah, the kid should not have done it. If it is an offense against God, and you believe in such things.....there will be judgment. But please, the fact that you think it should be a felony shows that you are looking to live in a theocracy. Wasting

Here is the headline ---- STUPID KID DOES STUPID PRANK TO PUT UP ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

Here is the punishment. Kid goes to find a job and his employer does a search and finds it.
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I don't know why you're babbling about theocracy. Perhaps you don't know what you're talking about?
 
Cephus said:
Says the guy with the imaginary friend...
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"know this, that in the latter times, you will be hated for My name's sake." If making fun of people of faith makes you happy, I truly feel sorry for, may you find the truth that is His word.

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From the fact that some post pictures of Jesus, as an argument for why this 14-year old boy should be held for a crime, it is clear they believe that it's just fine for government to enforce religious laws. That is no different than imposing Sharia Law. The only difference is that Sharia Law is someone else's religion and the Christian Bible is their religion.

It is also clear that any law that makes it a crime to "desecrate" a religious object, when that object was not harmed in any way, fails two constitutional tests. 1) First Amendment: "Congress [government] shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..." This law establishes Christian law (the desecration of an image of Jesus) as a crime.

2) Rooted in the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments, is the tenet of "unconstitutional vagueness." That is, a statute might be voided for vagueness when an average citizen cannot generally determine what is being regulated or what the law applies. If a statue of Jesus is covered under the law but burning a Koran is not or a non-religious statue is not, then the law is unconstitutionally vague.
 
Unless you think lewdly posing with ANY statue (not just a religious one) should be a felony...yes...you are heading into theocracy territory.

Again, the headline should be STUPID KID DOES STUPID PRANK TO PUT UP ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

Let his parents punish him.
 
Hard Truth said:
The public's interest in not being offended by seeing naked people or hearing naughty words. There is no material harm from naked people or bad words.
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Your problem.
 
Henrin said:
Sorry, but that is how they get away with it, not what their motivations are.
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False motives, conspiracy. How long until we hear about the holograms?
 
Brich said:
"know this, that in the latter times, you will be hated for My name's sake." If making fun of people of faith makes you happy, I truly feel sorry for, may you find the truth that is His word.
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MTAtech said:
It is also clear that any law that makes it a crime to "desecrate" a religious object, when that object was not harmed in any way, fails two constitutional tests. 1) First Amendment: "Congress [government] shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..." This law establishes Christian law (the desecration of an image of Jesus) as a crime.
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The law is about a venerated object thus covering both religious and non religious. Therefore 1st amendment is not violated.

2) Rooted in the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments, is the tenet of "unconstitutional vagueness." That is, a statute might be voided for vagueness when an average citizen cannot generally determine what is being regulated or what the law applies. If a statue of Jesus is covered under the law but burning a Koran is not or a non-religious statue is not, then the law is unconstitutionally vague.
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The issue of ownership also comes into play here. Had that been the boy's statue or at least his family's, then the law could not apply. I can go out and purchase my own Koran and burn it and no law in the US can touch me in and of itself. Incidentals, such as burning it on someone else's property or the act resulting in burn damage to property other than mine could be applied but those would apply regardless of what the initial object burned was.

Now I will admit that "venerated" can be a subjective term, which is why I do not like the law in and of itself.
 
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