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Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

I pray for you. I wonder if you make fun of Muslims......

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ARealConservative said:
as soon as you are ruled dictator, you can decide what is an acceptable defense and what isn't.

until that day, a jury of your peers will ultimately decide.
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Judges will also decide whether such laws can withstand constitutional scrutiny. If that 14-year old did what he did to a fire hydrant, instead of a statue of Jesus, he probably wouldn't have been arrested. Thus, he is being arrested for essentially making fun of a religious symbol and doing no harm to that personal property. That makes this law a state enforcement of a religious viewpoint, which I would contend is unconstitutional.

Would those agree that if the 14-year old bought the statue and did what he did on his own property, there would be no grounds for arrest?
 
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The U.S. images631B5BTB.jpgwas built on Judo/Christian values. This PC multicultural stuff does not work.
 
Beaudreaux said:
WTF??? Desecration??? When did that become a law here in the US? A Christian version of Sharia??? Seriously?
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The charge appears to be a version of 'hate crime' legislation. I dont agree with hate crime legislation, and dont agree with this legislation> But...since the hate crime legislation has been passed, well...there ya go.
 
Read the Bible....You might learn something.

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VanceMack said:
The charge appears to be a version of 'hate crime' legislation. I dont agree with hate crime legislation, and dont agree with this legislation> But...since the hate crime legislation has been passed, well...there ya go.
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Blasphemy, which is what this equates to, has no place in our criminal justice system. What's next? What other actions can they charge this crime to?

It's unbelievable to me that the United States of America has locations that actually have "religious" laws.

I've spent a good part of my life fighting against oppressive people, I never thought it would come to my cherished country.

For them to equate this to a hate crime is ridiculous. There was no harm, no injury. He didn't spray paint swastikas on a Jewish synagogue that harmed the property and did physical damage, or paint over the statue with atheist slogans that damaged the statue. There was no crime. An idiot being an a-hole? Yeah, but no crime. If being an idiot were a crime, the majority of this nation would be behind bars.
 
TheNextEra said:
Yes, Jesus, please come so you can get nailed again :lamo
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Another brain dead liberal. Every make fun of Muslims? Read the Word, you need it.

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Does anybody know what the actual exact charge was?
 
MTAtech said:
Judges will also decide whether such laws can withstand constitutional scrutiny. If that 14-year old did what he did to a fire hydrant, instead of a statue of Jesus, he probably wouldn't have been arrested. Thus, he is being arrested for essentially making fun of a religious symbol and doing no harm to that personal property. That makes this law a state enforcement of a religious viewpoint, which I would contend is unconstitutional.

Would those agree that if the 14-year old bought the statue and did what he did on his own property, there would be no grounds for arrest?
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some will agree. some won't

can you walk around naked on your property simply because it is your property?
 
Beaudreaux said:
Blasphemy, which is what this equates to, has no place in our criminal justice system. What's next? What other actions can they charge this crime to?

It's unbelievable to me that the United States of America has locations that actually have "religious" laws.

I've spent a good part of my life fighting against oppressive people, I never thought it would come to my cherished country.

For them equate this to a hate crime is ridiculous. There was no harm, no injury. He didn't spray paint swastikas on a Jewish synagogue that harmed the property and did physical damage, or paint over the statue with atheist slogans that damaged the statue. There was no crime. An idiot being an a-hole? Yeah, but no crime. If being an idiot were a crime, the majority of this nation would be behind bars.
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I agree. It makes as much sense as charging people with a hate crime.
 
Brich said:
Another brain dead liberal. Every make fun of Muslims? Read the Word, you need it.
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Not a liberal, but then someone like you who can only post pictures wouldn't know that. My God has a hammer, yours got nailed to the cross, any questions? :lamo
 
Goshin said:
Does anybody know what the actual exact charge was?
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DESECRATION OF VENERATED OBJECT

Any person who commits the offense of desecration of a venerated object is guilty of a crime.

For you to find the defendant guilty of this offense, the state must have proven beyond a reasonable doubt the existence of the following essential elements:1

[Part A:

(1) that the defendant desecrated a place of [worship] [burial];

and

(2) that the defendant acted intentionally.]

or

[Part B:

(1) that the defendant desecrated a [state] [national] flag;

and

(2) that the defendant acted intentionally.]

"Desecrate" means defacing, damaging, polluting or otherwise physically mistreating in a way that the person knows or should know will outrage the sensibilities of an ordinary individual likely to observe or discover the person's action.2

"Intentionally" means that a person acts intentionally with respect to the nature of the conduct or to a result of the conduct when it is the person's conscious objective or desire to engage in the conduct or cause the result.3
 
TheNextEra said:
Not a liberal, but then someone like you who can only post pictures wouldn't know that. My God has a hammer, yours got nailed to the cross, any questions? :lamo
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Your god is Thor? Great choice!
 
Henrin said:
Your god is Thor? Great choice!
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We did a lot of family geneology. Our paternal line is from Denmark. My kids were thrilled to learn their great great great great great great great grandfather was Thor Odinsson...
 
VanceMack said:
DESECRATION OF VENERATED OBJECT

Any person who commits the offense of desecration of a venerated object is guilty of a crime.

For you to find the defendant guilty of this offense, the state must have proven beyond a reasonable doubt the existence of the following essential elements:1

[Part A:

(1) that the defendant desecrated a place of [worship] [burial];

and

(2) that the defendant acted intentionally.]

or

[Part B:

(1) that the defendant desecrated a [state] [national] flag;

and

(2) that the defendant acted intentionally.]

"Desecrate" means defacing, damaging, polluting or otherwise physically mistreating in a way that the person knows or should know will outrage the sensibilities of an ordinary individual likely to observe or discover the person's action.2

"Intentionally" means that a person acts intentionally with respect to the nature of the conduct or to a result of the conduct when it is the person's conscious objective or desire to engage in the conduct or cause the result.3
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Hm. Interesting. Thank you....



I'd take note that this law covers places of worship, burial sites, and the state and national flags.


I have mixed feelings. Certainly, when you consider the level of outrage and fury that can result when someone willfully desecrates a place of worship, or a grave site (particularly where someone you loved is buried), or indeed the national flag in some cases, you could make a case that this is "public disorderly conduct" or possibly even "inciting to riot".


Twenty years ago, if I'd seen that going on, I would have kicked that kid's ass. (I was more hotheaded then). Today, no I wouldn't..... but I'd definitely read him the riot act verbally, which could lead to escalations.... so in a sense one could argue public order is endangered by some types of such behavior.


But one has to be careful of the slippery slope thing....
 
Gee it wasn't to long ago that somebody made a float for a parade the had a bunch of Obama supporters bent out of shape. Matter of fact I believe the justice department was "'looking into it"'?? Now I personally think the kid should be told to quit being a disrespectful ass and that's that. But you could lay money on the fact had this been done at a mosque, all hell would be breaking loose. The Scamander in cheif would be giving a press conference on how this islamic bigotry will not be tolerated and Eric Holder will look into possible hate crime charges. Sorry lefties this is your baby, and your can of worms.
 
Goshin said:
Hm. Interesting. Thank you....



I'd take note that this law covers places of worship, burial sites, and the state and national flags.


I have mixed feelings. Certainly, when you consider the level of outrage and fury that can result when someone willfully desecrates a place of worship, or a grave site (particularly where someone you loved is buried), or indeed the national flag in some cases, you could make a case that this is "public disorderly conduct" or possibly even "inciting to riot".


Twenty years ago, if I'd seen that going on, I would have kicked that kid's ass. (I was more hotheaded then). Today, no I wouldn't..... but I'd definitely read him the riot act verbally, which could lead to escalations.... so in a sense one could argue public order is endangered by some types of such behavior.


But one has to be careful of the slippery slope thing....
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His actions are no less than a large number of people on this site display on a regular basis. Guess its a good thing those internet hate crime laws arent in place!
 
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