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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    Physical damage is not always the requirement for a law. Trespass is a good example. This statue was someone else's property, not his own, nor did he have permission, Desecration is a non-damage type law as much as trespass is. Since the desecration is applied equally to both religious and non-religious objects blasphemy is a non-issue.
    If I flip off a bible in a church there is NOTHING they can do to me legally. They can ask me to leave and if I don't THEN they can charge me with trespassing. Desecration needs to have damage.

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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Charging someone with a crime because a photograph offended people violates the first amendment.
    I think hate crime laws violate the first amendment, too, but they're still in place. In my opinion, the photograph is merely evidence of the offense not the offense, itself. And I think obscenity laws are still in place and the community may consider such a photograph and such behavior to be obscene.
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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    I think hate crime laws violate the first amendment, too, but they're still in place. In my opinion, the photograph is merely evidence of the offense not the offense, itself. And I think obscenity laws are still in place and the community may consider such a photograph and such behavior to be obscene.
    One thing is certain. The kid wouldn't have it with a statue of Mohammed.

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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    If I flip off a bible in a church there is NOTHING they can do to me legally. They can ask me to leave and if I don't THEN they can charge me with trespassing. Desecration needs to have damage.
    Can you show this in the laws? For damage to be the criteria then it would need to be stated. Additionally, the standard for gestures vary. For example while flipping off someone else's bible would not be grounds for desecration taking their bible and rubbing it on your crotch would, even if you did not expose your gentiles. For that matter if you did it to my xbox desecration would also apply.
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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I'm referring to this case. Do you think the kid should be put on the sexual predator list for gesturing a statue?
    We're mixing things here --- what I think and what is may be two different things. I believe US law does not require nudity for a sexual crime.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    We're mixing things here --- what I think and what is may be two different things. I believe US law does not require nudity for a sexual crime.
    It does when it is being done to an inanimate object.

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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    It does when it is being done to an inanimate object.
    Could you provide a citation that supports your view?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Could you provide a citation that supports your view?
    You are asking to prove a negative. The proper question would be for you to show where it does apply.

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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    It does when it is being done to an inanimate object.
    Nudity period, or just on the part of the perpetrator?
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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    Nudity period, or just on the part of the perpetrator?
    Not following your question, are you wanting to charge a statue with being nude?

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