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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Really? Convervatives are the only ones pushing laws for things that piss them off? I am pretty sure liberals are making a habit out of that too buddy.
    Abortion, gay marriage, drugs, whatever. Legal is the default setting, in my liberal opinion. and we don't need laws where they're not needed.
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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Typical hyper-partisan reaction, take one extermist and ignore the large majority of the same political lean around him saying otherwise and treat the extremist as the norm.

    Multiple conservatives (actually, the vast majority of conservatives) in this thread haven't just had a different reaction than him, but many have actually condemned his suggestion.
    Taken a poll, have ya?
    Let's throw out anyone declaring 'other' or 'undisclosed' or 'libertarian without a lean' and see if the issue isn't about partisan lines.
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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by Winchester View Post
    What a waste of law enforcement time.
    What a waste of taxpayers education dollars if this is what they get.

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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Feltser View Post
    This all happens because our nation loses all its moral foundations and completely degrade. Youth has nothing sacred. Where are we going to? Why is this happening?
    "Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”
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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Taken a poll, have ya?
    Let's throw out anyone declaring 'other' or 'undisclosed' or 'libertarian without a lean' and see if the issue isn't about partisan lines.
    Every post below is from someone with conservative or libertarian - right lean. Not a single person if those leans expressed support for codifying blasphemy under the law or specific to the post you quoted, that the kid should be imprisoned. You bigoted,y stereotyped conservatives due to your own prejudices by taking the words of one extremist and acting like that was the norm.

    And this isn't even taking into account "undisclosed" well known right leaning posters like Goshin or Vance who also disagreed with paleo

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    As much as I'm appalled by what this kid did I have a hard time considering it to be anything more than public indecency. From a very brief read it doesn't appear to have been an act of vandalism so I have a hard time getting to "desecration".
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    We do not live in the middle where desecration is a crime.Nor do we like in Canada or Britain or some other eurotrash country where hate speech is a crime. The boy did not damage the statue,so he should not even be charged with anything unless he trespassed onto the property to take that photo.
    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Jesus ****ing Christ, really? You God-damned religious nuts need to give it a rest.
    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    That's pretty nasty. He's 14? I have a 14 year old and he looks a lot younger than that kid.

    Sorry Paleocon, I don't think he deserves prison for that. It's lewd and disgusting, and he needs a smack upside his head, and I can certainly see & understand how it offends you, but not imprisonment.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    The only thing that would matter is if he actually physically harmed the statue. He did not. He shouldn't be charged for anything else, it's all freedom of speech. If they really want to do something, get him for trespassing if they can.
    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    Makes sense. As for the kid in the pic, I don't see any laws broken, but perhaps his parents ought to kick his ass and teach him to respect others.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    As disgusting as these posed pictures are I have to agree.


    I know this was not directed at me, but I for one do not want the government determining what is or is not blasphemy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrabaholic View Post
    Of course not....

    Personally, I wouldn't want my tax dollars used to prosecute and imprison someone for something so petty....
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I am surprised you aren't calling for the auto de fe and public burning at the stake


    I think its mindless what he did but under the first amendment, it shouldn't be punished
    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    Last time I checked, our government doesn't uphold religious law and blasphemy is not illegal. Otherwise a lot of people who use the Lord's name in vain are looking at some jail time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    As a Christian I find his actions sacrilegious and irresponsible

    But he shouldn't be charged for any thing more than trespassing.

    When Isis blew up Jonah's tomb I wasn't incensed either.

    Those who seek to attack Christianity by attacking objects or religious icons truly do not understand the heart of a Christian.

    Faith isn't about worshipping man made objects or even locations that are tied to Christianity's History.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    If you're able to arrive at the conclusion that it's ridiculous for him to go to jail due to first amendment issues, or that it's grossly disproportionate to the offense, so is anybody else.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    And this is why I'm thankful religious extremists of any sort typically can't get substantial power in this country.

    Blasphemy, an entirely religious concept, should not be codified into law. Indeed, doing such is inherently against one of the foundational principles this country's government is based on, which is that the government should not restrict individuals speech. Bringing up Sharia is ENTIRELY justified, as suggesting that people should be IMPRISONED for "Public blashpheming" is a similar sort of over the top religious based legal structure.
    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Exactly: Blasphemy should not be codified into law, and individual free speech, however abhorrent, should not be restricted unless it's seditious.

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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Every post below is from someone with conservative or libertarian - right lean. Not a single person if those leans expressed support for codifying blasphemy under the law or specific to the post you quoted, that the kid should be imprisoned. You bigoted,y stereotyped conservatives due to your own prejudices by taking the words of one extremist and acting like that was the norm.

    And this isn't even taking into account "undisclosed" well known right leaning posters like Goshin or Vance who also disagreed with paleo
    For the record...Im not 'undisclosed'. I'm a very fiscally conservative registered libertarian...just not one of those REAL libertarians. Im also more socially liberal than most extremist liberals...I just believe in EFFECTIVE social programs. I am a JFK Democrat. I changed my lean from Libertarian to Independent after one of THOSE conversations with one of THOSE Libertarians that are committed to ensure the Libertarian party well never EEEEEVVVVEEEERRRR know significant elected representation.

    Now...back to the topic at hand...I agree...this and ALL laws should be changed that are in place solely to prevent people from getting their feelings hurt.

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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    For the record...Im not 'undisclosed'.
    Sorry, I couldn't remember exactly what your lean was but knew it was one of the ones he wanted to exclude (undisclosed, independent, etc) which is what I was trying to point out.

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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Sorry, I couldn't remember exactly what your lean was but knew it was one of the ones he wanted to exclude (undisclosed, independent, etc) which is what I was trying to point out.
    Its OK...m having the same conversation with APDST in another thread on this subject about 'liberals'.

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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Every post below is from someone with conservative or libertarian - right lean. Not a single person if those leans expressed support for codifying blasphemy under the law or specific to the post you quoted, that the kid should be imprisoned. You bigoted,y stereotyped conservatives due to your own prejudices by taking the words of one extremist and acting like that was the norm.

    And this isn't even taking into account "undisclosed" well known right leaning posters like Goshin or Vance who also disagreed with paleo
    But you have to remember that to people like Paleo, EVERYONE that doesn't believe exactly like they do is a liberal. Everyone. Without exception.
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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    But you have to remember that to people like Paleo, EVERYONE that doesn't believe exactly like they do is a liberal. Everyone. Without exception.
    Oh absolutely. But my response wasn't to Paleo, it was to a completely separate poster who was holding up Paleo as some kind of example of what the "typical conservative reaction" is to this.

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