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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    only if you can round up 11 different alleged accounts saying the wiccan views cause miracles

    remember kids 11 claims of testimony or it did not happen


    but if you get that then it logically must be true as long as no one can give definite motivations for why the 11 would lie(assuming the 11 witness are legit which you must)
    Coming up with dozens of witnesses for any sort or miracle (Christian, Jewish, Islamic, Wiccan, etc) is really not that hard to come by. It's people accepting their testimony, or documentation of said testimony, that is the rarity. Even the Resurrection can be written off as a mass (or multiple if you prefer depending on how you want to apply the numbers) hallucination as scientifically it is something that cannot be reproduced. Of course this is the very definition of a miracle. Additionally, I could produce a number of fictional works, written as witness testimony, that in a mere few decades people would not be able to tell that the work was fiction or miracle itself. In less than a century, they could start a dozen new religions, that believers would think dated back hundreds or thousands or years.
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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    ..Unless of course you are claiming that the state of Pennsylvania is guilty of violating the First Amendment and therefore divine law, in which case I would point out that, according to the Angelic Doctor, unjust laws are not in fact laws but corruptions of law, and therefore do not bind.
    I claim that the Pennsyvania law is unconstitional and if the case is appealed it will probably be struck down. It is easier to argue a legitimate government interest in banning flag desecration compared to desecration of religious objects, but the Supreme Court correctly ruled that the first amendment should prevail over protection of symbols.

    There is no divine law.

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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
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    I find it disgusting that this is a misdemeanor. It ought to be punished by imprisonment.
    I'm a catholic and I find it disgusting, however the kid should not be charged.. The First Amendment applies here. Now if the kid damaged the idol then of course he should be charged with a crime..

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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    I think the progressives here really don't care about this issue NOT because the kid has First Amendment rights but because they hate Christianity, and that is more disturbing to me than the kid in the picture.

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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I think the progressives here really don't care about this issue NOT because the kid has First Amendment rights but because they hate Christianity, and that is more disturbing to me than the kid in the picture.
    I'll let Gandhi answer that one:

    "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."

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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I think the progressives here really don't care about this issue NOT because the kid has First Amendment rights but because they hate Christianity, and that is more disturbing to me than the kid in the picture.
    I don't think anyone 'hates Christianity'. Perhaps some people are tired of self-righteous judgemental hypocrites who play the victim card?

    For example:

    The Bedford county DA Bill Higgins who wants to prosecute the 14 year old boy has apparently been busy using this incident to post "Christianity under attack!!" facebook posts.

    "I guess I should take solace in the fact that the liberals are mad at me—again. As for this case, this troubled young man offended the sensibilities and morals of OUR community.… His actions constitute a violation of the law, and he will be prosecuted accordingly. If that tends to upset the 'anti-Christian, ban-school-prayer, war-on-Christmas, oppose-display-of-Ten-Commandments' crowd, I make no apologies."

    Meanwhile, the same married District Attorney Bill Higgins has been accused of sexually assaulting a woman in his office in July.

    Bedford DA: Sex in office no crime - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
    Last edited by Ceist; 09-14-14 at 07:51 PM.

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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I think the progressives here really don't care about this issue NOT because the kid has First Amendment rights but because they hate Christianity, and that is more disturbing to me than the kid in the picture.


    The way you brand anything and everything you don't like "progressive" has effectively rendered that word meaningless.
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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I'm a catholic and I find it disgusting, however the kid should not be charged.. The First Amendment applies here. Now if the kid damaged the idol then of course he should be charged with a crime..
    If you're able to arrive at the conclusion that it's ridiculous for him to go to jail due to first amendment issues, or that it's grossly disproportionate to the offense, so is anybody else.

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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I think the progressives here really don't care about this issue NOT because the kid has First Amendment rights but because they hate Christianity, and that is more disturbing to me than the kid in the picture.
    why do you think that?

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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Very talibornagain thinking there.


    But, I bet you wouldn't mind if he did it to something islamic, or a buddah, etc..

    I find it disgusting that this is a misdemeanor. It ought to be punished by imprisonment.
    I do not approve of public sexual conduct of any kind.

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Desire is reasonable. We can all desire things to be different. Wanting the government to handle this type of issue in such a severe way is a dangerous precedent.
    How did civilization manage to survive for thousands of years with such "dangerous" precedents?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Which is not against the law, nor should it be.
    This act was against the law, but don't let reality get in the way of a leftist rant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrabaholic View Post
    You are proposing that tax dollars be used for such a thing, my liberal friend.
    And now it's resorting to mindless insults.

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    Ah so then it would be logical for my sisters to punish you for violating their Wiccan religious views.
    That would logically follow from the statement "Wicca is true". (but the premise is false, of course)

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Unless you were being sarcastic I understand what you mean. What you mean is allah akbar throw the infidel in prison for insulting my religion allah akbar.
    Why are you incoherent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I'm a catholic and I find it disgusting, however the kid should not be charged.. The First Amendment applies here. Now if the kid damaged the idol then of course he should be charged with a crime..
    That's rather contrary to the traditional relation of Church and state, is it not?

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