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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    No, the Roman Inquisition (since renamed) is sufficient.

    If one really believes that Christianity is the true religion established for the salvation of the world, then one logically should desire the prohibition of public denigrations of it.



    Even blarg understood what I meant.
    That's the paleocon we know and love or some word that sounds a bit like love classic

    you might need a logical reason to believe in Christianity 1st though

    not that your god existing would make it moral

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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    That's the paleocon we know and love or some word that sounds a bit like love classic

    you might need a logical reason to believe in Christianity 1st though

    not that your god existing would make it moral
    The corroborating testimony of eleven witnesses to the same event, with no motivation for falsehood.

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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    The corroborating testimony of eleven witnesses to the same event, with no motivation for falsehood.
    except we cant prove any one was a witness and people wanted other people to believe in Christianity

    which event do you mean?

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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    If one really believes that Christianity is the true religion established for the salvation of the world, then one logically should desire the prohibition of public denigrations of it.
    No. I do desire for everyone--Christian, members of other faiths, and secularists--to be respectful of the beliefs of others. But there will always be tension between God and "Caesar." And Jesus wasn't about changing the law; He was about changing the individual heart and conscience.

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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    except we cant prove any one was a witness and people wanted other people to believe in Christianity

    which event do you mean?
    The resurrection.

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    No. I do desire for everyone--Christian, members of other faiths, and secularists--to be respectful of the beliefs of others. But there will always be tension between God and "Caesar." And Jesus wasn't about changing the law; He was about changing the individual heart and conscience.
    There will always be tension between God and humanity in general (until the end of time). So should humanity in general be unaffected by the desires of God?

    Also, do you really think you know better than virtually every scholar of Christianity for the first fifteen hundred years of its existence?

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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    The resurrection.

    There will always be tension between God and humanity in general (until the end of time). So should humanity in general be unaffected by the desires of God?

    Also, do you really think you know better than virtually every scholar of Christianity for the first fifteen hundred years of its existence?
    I haven't claimed to know better; in fact, if you've ever read my posts, I nearly always add the disclaimer that I am not a Biblical scholar. But I do know that Jesus said to rend unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and how one conducts himself in public--following the laws of public behavior, which include in this country First Amendment rights--is within Caesar's realm.

    If you don't like a law, work to change it. Consider how people responded to Mapplethorpe's art and "Piss Christ" vis-a-vis NEA funding.

    As for changing human hearts, which does succeed in modifying behavior, this is a one-on-one that begins with you being a light unto the gentiles, not by badgering those who disagree with your beliefs. What you don't want to do is cause those who already agree with your sense of outrage to turn away from you.

    And this is what you have just done.

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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I haven't claimed to know better; in fact, if you've ever read my posts, I nearly always add the disclaimer that I am not a Biblical scholar. But I do know that Jesus said to rend unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and how one conducts himself in public--following the laws of public behavior, which include in this country First Amendment rights--is within Caesar's realm.

    If you don't like a law, work to change it. Consider how people responded to Mapplethorpe's art and "Piss Christ" vis-a-vis NEA funding.

    As for changing human hearts, which does succeed in modifying behavior, this is a one-on-one that begins with you being a light unto the gentiles, not by badgering those who disagree with your beliefs. What you don't want to do is cause those who already agree with your sense of outrage to turn away from you.

    And this is what you have just done.
    The discussion regards what the law should say, not what it does say, so citing the First Amendment is irrelevant.

    Unless of course you are claiming that the state of Pennsylvania is guilty of violating the First Amendment and therefore divine law, in which case I would point out that, according to the Angelic Doctor, unjust laws are not in fact laws but corruptions of law, and therefore do not bind.

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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    The photo is funny lol.

    But the minor was on someone elses property performing a simulated sexual act. if he were a adult I think the cops should tell him not to do it again and if the land owner objects to the person being on the property then tell him he isnt wanted there. As a minor though he should have received a lecture and possibly some small amount of community service. Nothing should go on his record. A attempt should at least be made to teach the kid respect of other peoples property.

    Again the photo is funny and I wouldnt have been above doing the same thing. ANd actually I have done similar things but never made the acts public. Had the kid not shared his joke on facebook he wouldnt have gotten in trouble. Regardless though I am sure that he still thinks that it was funny. ANd I doubt that he learned anything from the experience.

    But what did they expect with a name like: Love INC.?

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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    As a Christian I find his actions sacrilegious and irresponsible

    But he shouldn't be charged for any thing more than trespassing.

    When Isis blew up Jonah's tomb I wasn't incensed either.

    Those who seek to attack Christianity by attacking objects or religious icons truly do not understand the heart of a Christian.

    Faith isn't about worshipping man made objects or even locations that are tied to Christianity's History.

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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

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    Very talibornagain thinking there.


    But, I bet you wouldn't mind if he did it to something islamic, or a buddah, etc..

    I find it disgusting that this is a misdemeanor. It ought to be punished by imprisonment.
    "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana

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