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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    This ordinance is crap...

    "Desecrate." Defacing, damaging, polluting or otherwise
    physically mistreating in a way that the actor knows will
    outrage the sensibilities of persons likely to observe or
    discover the action.


    The 1st amendment trumps anyone's "sensibilities".

    That statue is undoubtably on private property- so unless it is his property, his first amendment rights really dont apply.

    I wonder had somebody had shot him off the statue, what level of charges would the killer face. My guess is that the "fighting words" doctrine might apply.

    Even if they dont apply in the formal sense, it might be very difficult to sit a jury of 12 willing to convict for first or second degree murder. Manslaughter might be a possibility. Though, in east Texas, the conviction might be more towards disturbing the peace, or firing a weapon in city limits.

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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    This is pretty messed up!
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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    If they want to cite him for trespassing, maybe. He didn't seem to have to break into anyplace to get where he did.

    He didn't deface or otherwise damage the statue of the prophet.

    Saying that he is "The Almighty God" seems to violate the second commandment. Imbuing so much into an inanimate object seems to violate the third commandment.

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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    So there are laws for being offended. I always said one doesn't have a right to not be offended, but that seems wrong.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    The fraternity they belonged to was placed on probation. That was an action between the private university and its students...who pledge to uphold the university's code of conduct when the student applied to attend the private institution.
    Makes sense. As for the kid in the pic, I don't see any laws broken, but perhaps his parents ought to kick his ass and teach him to respect others.

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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    He committed a heinous act of blasphemy.
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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    That statue is undoubtably on private property- so unless it is his property, his first amendment rights really dont apply.

    I wonder had somebody had shot him off the statue, what level of charges would the killer face. My guess is that the "fighting words" doctrine might apply.

    Even if they dont apply in the formal sense, it might be very difficult to sit a jury of 12 willing to convict for first or second degree murder. Manslaughter might be a possibility. Though, in east Texas, the conviction might be more towards disturbing the peace, or firing a weapon in city limits.
    No. That is not correct. If he violated private property, that is an offense all its own. That has nothing to do with what he was charged with. He can be prosecuted for violating private property...but he was not.

    I never said the kids 1st amendment rights were violated...I said the law trying to prosecute him are unconstitutional. Passing a law because someone's sensibilities are violated is not constitutional.

    There is no right to shoot a person on private property without justification. If a kid walks on your lawn gives you no right to shot him. Private property is not a licence to shoot/kill.


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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    The kid looks like a white trash scumbag to me. What an asshole.
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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
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    I find it disgusting that this is a misdemeanor. It ought to be punished by imprisonment.
    Please explain to use why you think posing for a picture performing a lewd act with an inanimate object that was not harmed, should be a felony? I am not even sure this charge, "desecration of a venerate object," is even constitutional -- as it elevates religious objects to something above a mere object.
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    Re: Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
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    There is no right to shoot a person on private property without justification. If a kid walks on your lawn gives you no right to shot him. Private property is not a licence to shoot/kill.
    Well, except in Texas.
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