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even when "his account stands"No. I am not.
even when "his account stands"No. I am not.
even when "his account stands"
That isn't the question, the question isWe shall see whether it stands.
That isn't the question, the question is
"when you say "his account stands", you are not assuming he is correct?"
What is your point in telling us that all of these people are Democrats?
Besides the fact that you've been supporting goodell all through this?
And how is this any different from the congressional hearings on steroids?
Spousal abuse throughout the NFL will affect the bottom line for years--and that's how these guys get fired .
I could almost buy that B.S. if it weren't for how Rice acted after he punched her in the head. A man who wasn't accustomed to beating on women would have put his hands on his head and mimicked a, "WTF did I just doooo????" Not him. Not macho man. He drug her out of the elevator like she was a dead steer in a slaughterhouse
The NFL punishes someone for because they have shown a propensity to commit violent acts against defenseless people without remorse and the NFL are the cowards?????? I blame the NFL for not doing due diligence on their initial investigation but to say suspending Ray Rice is the media's fault and the NFL shouldn't have suspended him for at least a whole season is mind boggling. Ray Rice is the coward. He was the one that proved he is capable of remorseless, unmerciful violence against people that cannot hope to defend themselves. Whatever punishment Ray Rice gets can only be blamed on Ray Rice.
Of course she is. If Ray ain't raking in the millions that hurts her lifestyle significantly.
I think that this punishment is a little severe, but I don't think his suspension lasts past this year. He's 27 now, so he's got a good 3 years left as a running back. More than that if he's a backup.
I wouldn't call it excessive to boot someone who abused his wife. You may think beating your spouse until she is unconscious is no big deal but most people do think it is a big deal.
Busybodies? What a pathetic attempt to defend this piece of crap.
He plays a sport. Sports do not produce a product. They only produce entertainment for sports fans. If the sports fans are discussed with your bullying of women you have lost your sales value. Your team does not wanting you around and hurt the other players and organization sales.
I guess Rice and you learned something called responsibility about your actions. Your momma isn't here to tell you that its the media's fault for you slugging the mother of your child.
I could almost buy that B.S. if it weren't for how Rice acted after he punched her in the head. A man who wasn't accustomed to beating on women would have put his hands on his head and mimicked a, "WTF did I just doooo????" Not him. Not macho man. He drug her out of the elevator like she was a dead steer in a slaughterhouse.
She pushed his buttons knowing full well he'd snap. That's what some women do. That's what she did. Because if she wasn't that kind of whore, she'd have had his ass thrown in jail.
The justice system acted according to established guidelines.
Janay is the one the hyenas claimed they were protecting, on whose behalf they came down so hard on Rice! But she doesn't join the hate fest so she's dirt, too.
8/31/2014 | San Francisco | DT | Ray McDonald | Arrested on suspicion of felony domestic violence in San Jose. | |
8/23/2014 | Buffalo | DT | Alan Branch | Arrested for DWI in upstate New York. | Released by team. |
8/20/2014 | Pittsburgh | RB | Le’Veon Bell | Charged with DUI and marijuana possession following a traffic stop in Ross Township, a Pittsburgh suburb. | |
8/20/2014 | Pittsburgh | RB | LeGarrette Blount | Charged with marijuana possession after police pulled over Le'Veon Bell's Chevrolet Camaro in a Pittsburgh suburb. | |
7/23/2014 | Jacksonville | WR | Justin Blackmon | Arrested for marijuana possession in Edmond, Okla. | |
7/20/2014 | St. Louis | LB | Jo-Lonn Dunbar | Arrested on battery and disorderly conduct charges after allegedly fighting NBA free agent Donte Green outside a Miami Beach nightclub. | |
7/19/2014 | Philadelphia | S_ | Keelan Johnson | Arrested and charged with assaulting a police officer, passively resisting arrest and disorderly conduct after an altercation with police officer at a bar in Tempe, Ariz. | |
7/12/2014 | Baltimore | CB | Jimmy Smith | Arrested and cited for failing to follow an officer’s orders in an incident at a suburban Baltimore restaurant. | |
7/5/2014 | Cleveland | WR | Josh Gordon | Arrested and charged with DWI in Raleigh, N.C. | |
6/29/2014 | Arizona | DE | John Abraham | Arrested and charged with DUI in DeKalb County, Ga. | |
6/20/2014 | Chicago | DE | Cornelius Washington | Arrested for speeding and driving with a suspended license in Glascock County, Ga. | |
6/9/2014 | Kansas City | CB | Sean Smith | Cited for DUI and careless driving after he stuck a light pole with his vehicle in Kansas City's Power & Light entertainment district. | |
5/30/2014 | Buffalo | DT | Marcell Dareus | Charged with reckless endangerment after crashing his 2012 Jaguar into a tree in suburban Buffalo. He was also ticketed for several traffic violations, including drag-racing. | |
5/25/2014 | Cleveland | WR | Josh Gordon | Ticketed for speeding on Interstate 71 in Strongsville, Ohio; a passenger in his car was cited for marijuana possession. | |
5/24/2014 | Baltimore | RB | Lorenzo Taliaferro | Arrested for misdemeanor destruction of property and being drunk in public in his hometown of Willliamsburg. |
Interesting, Rice was approved for pre trial intervention (PTI) and according to the New Jersey Courts Guidelines
PTI is used in criminal cases that don't involve violence and for victimless crimes.
New Jersey Courts
The Atlantic County prosecutor apparently acted within his discretion.
Yeah, I thought so. Her opinion doesn't count.
Yes, they are cowards for caving to the hyenas out for Rice's blood. And here you are lying about him for the full lynch mob effect. There is no evidence that he was "remorseless and unmerciful."
Yeah, several million dollars lost, no big deal.
Don't put my name on a straw man, and I won't ascribe your dislike of Rice to racism.
No, I think it's a damned good effort on my part at criticizing the lynch mob mentality around Rice, and you guys are having a damned hard time responding to it coherently. Tell us all again how the opinion of Janay, the victim of the beating, doesn't even count.
As for defending Rice, he should be punished. But there is no virtue in either handing out or accepting unjust and excessive punishment or bowing before an irrational, enraged mob.
Janay is the one the hyenas claimed they were protecting, on whose behalf they came down so hard on Rice! But she doesn't join the hate fest so she's dirt, too.
Maybe he's taking personal responsibility for his actions while you blame it on everybody else.
I could almost buy that B.S. if it weren't for how Rice acted after he punched her in the head. A man who wasn't accustomed to beating on women would have put his hands on his head and mimicked a, "WTF did I just doooo????" Not him. Not macho man. He drug her out of the elevator like she was a dead steer in a slaughterhouse.
She pushed his buttons knowing full well he'd snap. That's what some women do. That's what she did. Because if she wasn't that kind of whore, she'd have had his ass thrown in jail.
I agree. I know everyone is concerned/focused on the NFL's punishment, but shouldn't this have been a justice system punishment being far more important? The NFL can't control his behavior and prevent future occurrences; the justice system can.
You're absolutely right - this is why I've been saying that the NFL and other sports leagues shouldn't be punishing players for "crimes" but only punishing them for one of two things - they brought question to the integrity of games or they brought question to the integrity of the league - trying to be a second level of criminal/civil justice, a parallel court system, subjects them to the same level of disgust lots of us feel when juries get it wrong like in OJ or when judges are too lenient when handing down sentences and/or accepting plea deals.
If his crime is as bad as we all think it is (and I would say based on video that it is) then we should all agree he's a dangerous man. If we all agree to that, then we should all agree that the state of NJ let a dangerous man out to continue being a threat to society.
I'll have to consult my copy of the Constitution, but I can't remember the part in it where it says that the justice system has to defer to national sports leagues who hold the ultimate responsibility for keeping the country safe from dangerous people.
You're absolutely right - there was a time, before social media, when a man or woman who committed a crime was subjected to the justice system, was convicted or acquitted, and if found guilty served their time and then reentered society. Now, with social media, it seems everybody wants every entity that has any contact with a fallen man/woman to pile on and they insist on public floggings and sacrifices to the media gods in addition to any justice system penalty. Most people I know could care less if Tiger Woods has a promotions contract with Nike and therefore Nike is guilty of adultery if they don't toss his sorry ass out the door immediately.
Social media, in my view, is the modern day Roman Colosseum crowd chanting, demanding, miscreants be thrown to the lions and they are not satisfied until total destruction is meted out. Then, miraculously, once the person is torn to shreds, they'll start their social media campaign to resurrect the poor person once again. Mob rule and mob mentality is sickening and we're living it day to day in our failing society.
Speeding is thuggery?What hyenas? They didn't discipline him to protect Janay, she's as nutz as he is. They threw the book at him to protect their fan base. Over half of women watch NFL games today. This thuggery isn't new. Football players have long been notorious for rough-housing their women. Twenty years ago it was news. Now? With the internet? With Twitter? Women have found yet another voice to make themselves heard.
8/31/2014 San Francisco DT Ray McDonald Arrested on suspicion of felony domestic violence in San Jose. 8/23/2014 Buffalo DT Alan Branch Arrested for DWI in upstate New York. Released by team. 8/20/2014 Pittsburgh RB Le’Veon Bell Charged with DUI and marijuana possession following a traffic stop in Ross Township, a Pittsburgh suburb. 8/20/2014 Pittsburgh RB LeGarrette Blount Charged with marijuana possession after police pulled over Le'Veon Bell's Chevrolet Camaro in a Pittsburgh suburb. 7/23/2014 Jacksonville WR Justin Blackmon Arrested for marijuana possession in Edmond, Okla. 7/20/2014 St. Louis LB Jo-Lonn Dunbar Arrested on battery and disorderly conduct charges after allegedly fighting NBA free agent Donte Green outside a Miami Beach nightclub. 7/19/2014 Philadelphia S_ Keelan Johnson Arrested and charged with assaulting a police officer, passively resisting arrest and disorderly conduct after an altercation with police officer at a bar in Tempe, Ariz. 7/12/2014 Baltimore CB Jimmy Smith Arrested and cited for failing to follow an officer’s orders in an incident at a suburban Baltimore restaurant. 7/5/2014 Cleveland WR Josh Gordon Arrested and charged with DWI in Raleigh, N.C. 6/29/2014 Arizona DE John Abraham Arrested and charged with DUI in DeKalb County, Ga. 6/20/2014 Chicago DE Cornelius Washington Arrested for speeding and driving with a suspended license in Glascock County, Ga. 6/9/2014 Kansas City CB Sean Smith Cited for DUI and careless driving after he stuck a light pole with his vehicle in Kansas City's Power & Light entertainment district. 5/30/2014 Buffalo DT Marcell Dareus Charged with reckless endangerment after crashing his 2012 Jaguar into a tree in suburban Buffalo. He was also ticketed for several traffic violations, including drag-racing. 5/25/2014 Cleveland WR Josh Gordon Ticketed for speeding on Interstate 71 in Strongsville, Ohio; a passenger in his car was cited for marijuana possession. 5/24/2014 Baltimore RB Lorenzo Taliaferro Arrested for misdemeanor destruction of property and being drunk in public in his hometown of Willliamsburg.
Way too many thugs in that sport. Time to clean it up.
Speeding is thuggery?
You are the one who said his punishment for beating his wife was excessive. Obviously you must not think it is that big of a deal to beat your wife if you think getting kicked off a sports team is somehow excessive punishment for beating your wife.Don't put my name on a straw man, and I won't ascribe your dislike of Rice to racism.
Me too. I never realized I was so... bad.If it is, I'm a thug almost daily.
I could almost buy that B.S. if it weren't for how Rice acted after he punched her in the head. A man who wasn't accustomed to beating on women would have put his hands on his head and mimicked a, "WTF did I just doooo????" Not him. Not macho man. He drug her out of the elevator like she was a dead steer in a slaughterhouse.
She pushed his buttons knowing full well he'd snap. That's what some women do. That's what she did. Because if she wasn't that kind of whore, she'd have had his ass thrown in jail.