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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It counts for her. The NFL makes their own rules and their own decisions. They are a private organization and if a business chooses not to employ someone, that's their right.
    Neat copout. The screaming from people about Rice's initial punishment not being enough had nothing to do with it, I guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by Winchester View Post
    What she wants is moot. I don't want to watch a sport that glorifies scumbags.
    Soul of compassion here.

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    The media didn't assault Janay Rice. Ray Rice did. He's responsible for his actions and the consequences of his actions.
    No, the media just ginned up the whole thing until the league had no choice but to get rid of him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Really? The media destroyed his career? Are you ****ing kidding me?
    See above.

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Personally, I would not have a man working for me that beat his wife. Reason being, someone like that is on the level of a child molester in my book. If his wife was willing to put up with it, then fine, that's her choice, but that would not mean I would have to pay the son of a bitch.
    That would be your choice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I don't disagree with you here. But...

    I do have to say that I do think the media has taken this too far. One merely has to note that she did indeed marry the man that assaulted her. According to a few news sources that I have read, they did go to counselling and have ironed out their problems. While we do not know if they're being truthful, we have to take them at their word. Hopefully Rice has repented, and will never ever lay a hand on another woman ever again. So I personally do believe he should get another chance. Heck if she can forgive him, why can everyone else?
    As the news media and others were ginning this up with their outrage they might have paused to consider that they were not just hurting Rice but his whole family. Idiots and their stupid moral panic.

    What's the penalty for the crime of knocking out a woman (or any other adult)? It's not a felony. First offence with no criminal history would be a fine of < $1000 in most states.

    And so Rice must lose his career? Seems excessive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Yeah, we are going to excuse people who sucker punch women until they are unconscious because the woman he knocks about forgives the criminal .

    Sorry, but for people like that there is only one place, jail.
    And the woman gets no say.

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I feel bad for her, really bad. That probably wasn't the first time he hit her and it probably wasn't the last. A lot of abuse victims love their abuser, and don't often see the light until after they are taken away from the situation. I hope she gets the help that she needs and gets out of that bad situation. No one deserves to be in that kind of relationship.
    We've heard from a number of people who are very sure they know better how to live Jenet's life than she does.

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Here's a thought - perhaps the new Mrs. Rice is a little afraid to have her loving, adoring husband at home in the house 24/7 with no job to go to, no apparent hobbies, friends who now shun him. Perhaps she's a little worried that that level of closeness is going to endanger her more.

    But hey, if she wants to stand by her man that's all good too. Since Ray Rice has been made a multi-millionaire by the NFL plus whatever endorsements he hooked up with along the way, he should be well taken care of for the rest of his and his wife's lifetime - her's maybe not so long. Why not take that opportunity of no job to train for and go to and use it to travel around the country and counsel young men and women about the dangers of spousal/partner abuse and teach young men about respecting women and be an example for them of how stupid mistakes can take down the mighty. Would be good for him and his wife and may help keep some other young men from making the same mistakes.

    But all this is moot because Rice will get his suspension extended to 6 games from 2 and he'll be back in the league later this year as soon as a contending team has their running back go down with injury and at the latest some sad sack team like Oakland or Jacksonville will give him a contract and he'll probably have learned nothing from the experience. Maybe he'll become famous as the next OJ.
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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    His wife never filed charges over the abuse. That ought to tell you something. Don't understand that one but I know it goes on. We could guess till the cows come home but that's all it would be. Low self esteem? or maybe she puts up with the **** for the finer things in life. The video of Rice knocking her out with a single punch on the elevator was leaked to TMZ. They are the ones that exposed the ordeal. Rice's last contract with the Ravens was in 2012 for 35 million dollars. From what I've been reading he will get to keep 25 million and will lose out on the last 10 million. These two are use to livin mighty high on the hog. If she is going to "stand by her man", guess both of them will have to scale back and go on a budget.
    25 million dollars makes for one hell of a budget.
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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    When someone robs a bank, do they get the first one free?

    When someone kills a person, do they get an mulligan for the first murder?

    This attempt to trivialize Rice's actions as out of character or a one time shot (pun intended) is to trivialize spousal/partner abuse.
    He was punished for what he did even if he didn't go to prison. I'm not trivializing anything, but saying that treating him as a repeat offender when there is no evidence of any other incident is wrong. Treat repeat offenders as repeat offenders, not people that to the best of your knowledge only did it once.

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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    No, the media just ginned up the whole thing until the league had no choice but to get rid of him.
    "Ginned up the whole thing"? What in the hell?
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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    He was punished for what he did even if he didn't go to prison. I'm not trivializing anything, but saying that treating him as a repeat offender when there is no evidence of any other incident is wrong. Treat repeat offenders as repeat offenders, not people that to the best of your knowledge only did it once.
    How many non-celebrities who pleaded guilty to assaulting their wife/girlfriend who were employed in high profile businesses would get to keep their jobs and go along like nothing happened? Hell, even celebrities, like Mel Gibson and Alec Baldwin suffered significant financial loss and dried up opportunities as a result of their actions. What makes Rice so special?

    Treating only repeat offenders as repeat offenders is setting up first time offenders to repeat their actions because of the soft landing they received.
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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Seriously people there is no evidence of any other time when he hit his wife. Just assuming it is repeat behavior and then treating him as a repeat offender is poor form. Oh and people, they did get help.
    For a knockout punch like that one there does not have to be evidence that he has hit his wife more than once. One time is quite enough thank you. With a temper like that he could have just as well killed her with that punch.

    Sorry, but he is getting everything he deserves right now.
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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    And then there are the mind readers and the soothsayers.
    You know what, I have sympathy for the spouses and families of lots of people who commit crimes - doesn't mean I'm going to let the criminal off out of some misguided belief that crimes shouldn't be punished because close loved ones suffer too.
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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    And the woman gets no say.
    No, in a case of domestic abuse the victim does not have a say IMHO. Because otherwise dirt bags get away with their wife beating because the victim is either too scared to send him to jail or is so beaten down by the man that she actually thinks he is not the problem but she is.

    Ray Rice should have kept his hands to himself. Every problem he now faces are totally of his own making.
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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

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    Janay Rice defends husband Ray Rice, rips media - Chicago Tribune



    I wonder if anyone in the news media and all those sanctimoneous busybodies who think of themselves as protectors of women talked with Janay about it before destroying her husband's career.

    Naw. They wouldn't have cared.
    Actions have consequences. Just because she's moved past what he did to her, forgave him and married him, doesn't mean his employers still want to be associated with him. Domestic violence is a very serious issue. I do agree that the media milked this for all it's worth, though.
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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

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    Janay Rice defends husband Ray Rice, rips media - Chicago Tribune



    I wonder if anyone in the news media and all those sanctimoneous busybodies who think of themselves as protectors of women talked with Janay about it before destroying her husband's career.

    Naw. They wouldn't have cared.
    They didn't destroy Ray Rice's career. Ray Rice destroyed his career. And the fact that a battered woman defends her assaulter is hardly earth shaking news.
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