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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    But you haven't talked to her have you? So in truth, you don't know anything about the situation, but are instead sitting on your high horse pretending to know. Like I said, she's got friends. And while there are times where the woman herself won't say anything, that doesn't stop her friends from saying something does it? Face it, your only seeing what you want to see.
    If you knew anything about spousal abuse victims then you would know that most of them will make excuses for their abuser because they live in denial, too afraid to leave their spouse or have some other reason for staying with their spouse other than love. This wasn't a accident that she was hit. She did not accidentally run into his fist.Wife beaters do not hit their wife only once. This is why many states have no-drop policies or mandatory arrest and prosecution policies for domestic violence.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Nope. Don't buy it. First of all, it isn't just that she didn't report it. It's that she didn't report it. That she sat with him and took blame for it. That she went into counseling for domestic violence because of it. That she married him. And that she's still taking blame for it.

    If that wasn't done for $10 million, I'll eat my hat.
    Money might be one of the reasons she is staying with her husband.She might still love him and has some idiotic idea he will change,she might be living in denial and somehow thinks it's her fault that her husband beats her or she might be too scared to leave him.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If you knew anything about spousal abuse victims then you would know that most of them will make excuses for their abuser because they live in denial, too afraid to leave their spouse or have some other reason for staying with their spouse other than love. This wasn't a accident that she was hit. She did not accidentally run into his fist.Wife beaters do not hit their wife only once. This is why many states have no-drop policies or mandatory arrest and prosecution policies for domestic violence.
    Key words in there was "most". What if this is the ONE and ONLY case where that is wrong? Then everyone is making a fool out of themselves. Instead of making this case about the Ray Rice incident, people want to make this a crusade against all domestic violence abusers. I repeat, we have no evidence that there was been any other incidents between those two. We have no friends of hers that have stepped on her behalf to say otherwise. We have no hospital or police reports that show that this wasn't the first time this event happened. Until we have evidence that this wasn't a one off incident, then we shouldn't be lumping in Ray Rice with all the deadbeats that constantly abuse wives.

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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by Meadowlark View Post
    OK thanks, so he didn't act according the established guidelines, but used his discretion instead. I'm not sure for what purpose, as Rice was initially charged with assault by the Atlantic City police in the early hours of Feb. 15. But on March 27, an Atlantic City grand jury, presumably after watching all the Revel casino security camera videos, increased the charge to aggravated assault-bodily injury in the third degree and one count of simple assault. If convicted, Rice could have faced a penalty of three to five years in prison.

    With these charges, should Rice have gotten a deal?
    His discretion was/is within established guidelines.
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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Key words in there was "most". What if this is the ONE and ONLY case where that is wrong? Then everyone is making a fool out of themselves. Instead of making this case about the Ray Rice incident, people want to make this a crusade against all domestic violence abusers. I repeat, we have no evidence that there was been any other incidents between those two. We have no friends of hers that have stepped on her behalf to say otherwise. We have no hospital or police reports that show that this wasn't the first time this event happened. Until we have evidence that this wasn't a one off incident, then we shouldn't be lumping in Ray Rice with all the deadbeats that constantly abuse wives.
    Spousal abuse victims do not always go the hospital,file police reports or tell their friends that their husband beats their ass.

    Domestic violence is not a one time thing.She did not accidentally run into his fist.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Spousal abuse victims do not always go the hospital,file police reports or tell their friends that their husband beats their ass.

    Domestic violence is not a one time thing.She did not accidentally run into his fist.
    Tell that to Henrin and Joko. They clearly think Rice was provoked.
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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    His discretion was/is within established guidelines.
    This is the second line of the guidelines:

    "The objective of PTI is to provide defendants charged with victimless or less serious offenses an opportunity to avoid prosecution and receive early rehabilitative services".
    near the bottom of the page is says:

    "Who is generally not admitted into the PTI program:
    Defendants charged with violent offenses"

    Janay Rice is the victim and the charges against Ray Rice were violent (aggravated assault-bodily injury in the third degree and one count of simple assault).

    It was prosecutor Jim McClain's choice along with Judge Michael Donio that gave Rice a pass by ignoring the primary objective of the RTI program. Rice did not qualify fro the start.

    Here's a good article posted by ttwtt78640 -
    Uneven playing field? Judge, prosecutor who let Ray Rice walk toss book at single mom | Fox News

    Prosecutor Jim McClain and the Judge should be questioned by everyone.

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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by Meadowlark View Post
    This is the second line of the guidelines:

    "The objective of PTI is to provide defendants charged with victimless or less serious offenses an opportunity to avoid prosecution and receive early rehabilitative services".
    near the bottom of the page is says:

    "Who is generally not admitted into the PTI program:
    Defendants charged with violent offenses"

    Janay Rice is the victim and the charges against Ray Rice were violent (aggravated assault-bodily injury in the third degree and one count of simple assault).

    It was prosecutor Jim McClain's choice along with Judge Michael Donio that gave Rice a pass by ignoring the primary objective of the RTI program. Rice did not qualify fro the start.

    Here's a good article posted by ttwtt78640 -
    Uneven playing field? Judge, prosecutor who let Ray Rice walk toss book at single mom | Fox News

    Prosecutor Jim McClain and the Judge should be questioned by everyone.
    Fine. I don't care one way or the other. I believe the prosecutor has said that even if he went to trial there would have been no jail time. Looks to me like he made a cost effective decision.
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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Quite false. Men (and women) do talk openly about it and do try to seek help. There are many guys in the NFL with some history of domestic violence, and you're kidding yourself if you think it's not discussed amongst players.
    While I am sure that plenty of NFL players have hit their wives or girlfriends before (as men have in every industry), domestic violence is not something people typically talk about because of the shame and embarrassment of it.

    The rest of this is mental masturbation on your part and has nothing to do with my post. Perhaps time would be better spent educating yourself on the issue rather than posing stupid questions with no logical relation to what you're responding to.
    As I pointed out in a previous post, I grew up seeing my mother get the **** beat out of her on a regular basis by her boyfriend at the time. At one point, when he nearly killed her, we were living homeless in a battered women's shelter. So I assure you I am educated on the issue. You can get suspended or even thrown out of the NFL for smoking a joint, but you seem to think they should turn a blind eye to domestic violence. Should child molesters be allowed in the NFL as well?
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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Key words in there was "most". What if this is the ONE and ONLY case where that is wrong? Then everyone is making a fool out of themselves. Instead of making this case about the Ray Rice incident, people want to make this a crusade against all domestic violence abusers. I repeat, we have no evidence that there was been any other incidents between those two. We have no friends of hers that have stepped on her behalf to say otherwise. We have no hospital or police reports that show that this wasn't the first time this event happened. Until we have evidence that this wasn't a one off incident, then we shouldn't be lumping in Ray Rice with all the deadbeats that constantly abuse wives.
    The official NFL policy does treat first and subsequent offenses differently, as do the courts - the issue seems to be what is an appropriate NFL penalty for that particular offense.
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