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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Not to mention that he kicked her after dragging her out .
    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I could almost buy that B.S. if it weren't for how Rice acted after he punched her in the head. A man who wasn't accustomed to beating on women would have put his hands on his head and mimicked a, "WTF did I just doooo????" Not him. Not macho man. He drug her out of the elevator like she was a dead steer in a slaughterhouse.

    She pushed his buttons knowing full well he'd snap. That's what some women do. That's what she did. Because if she wasn't that kind of whore, she'd have had his ass thrown in jail.
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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I agree. I know everyone is concerned/focused on the NFL's punishment, but shouldn't this have been a justice system punishment being far more important? The NFL can't control his behavior and prevent future occurrences; the justice system can.
    You're absolutely right - this is why I've been saying that the NFL and other sports leagues shouldn't be punishing players for "crimes" but only punishing them for one of two things - they brought question to the integrity of games or they brought question to the integrity of the league - trying to be a second level of criminal/civil justice, a parallel court system, subjects them to the same level of disgust lots of us feel when juries get it wrong like in OJ or when judges are too lenient when handing down sentences and/or accepting plea deals.
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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    You're absolutely right - this is why I've been saying that the NFL and other sports leagues shouldn't be punishing players for "crimes" but only punishing them for one of two things - they brought question to the integrity of games or they brought question to the integrity of the league - trying to be a second level of criminal/civil justice, a parallel court system, subjects them to the same level of disgust lots of us feel when juries get it wrong like in OJ or when judges are too lenient when handing down sentences and/or accepting plea deals.
    If his crime is as bad as we all think it is (and I would say based on video that it is) then we should all agree he's a dangerous man. If we all agree to that, then we should all agree that the state of NJ let a dangerous man out to continue being a threat to society.

    I'll have to consult my copy of the Constitution, but I can't remember the part in it where it says that the justice system has to defer to national sports leagues who hold the ultimate responsibility for keeping the country safe from dangerous people.

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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    If his crime is as bad as we all think it is (and I would say based on video that it is) then we should all agree he's a dangerous man. If we all agree to that, then we should all agree that the state of NJ let a dangerous man out to continue being a threat to society.

    I'll have to consult my copy of the Constitution, but I can't remember the part in it where it says that the justice system has to defer to national sports leagues who hold the ultimate responsibility for keeping the country safe from dangerous people.
    You're absolutely right - there was a time, before social media, when a man or woman who committed a crime was subjected to the justice system, was convicted or acquitted, and if found guilty served their time and then reentered society. Now, with social media, it seems everybody wants every entity that has any contact with a fallen man/woman to pile on and they insist on public floggings and sacrifices to the media gods in addition to any justice system penalty. Most people I know could care less if Tiger Woods has a promotions contract with Nike and therefore Nike is guilty of adultery if they don't toss his sorry ass out the door immediately.

    Social media, in my view, is the modern day Roman Colosseum crowd chanting, demanding, miscreants be thrown to the lions and they are not satisfied until total destruction is meted out. Then, miraculously, once the person is torn to shreds, they'll start their social media campaign to resurrect the poor person once again. Mob rule and mob mentality is sickening and we're living it day to day in our failing society.
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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    You're absolutely right - there was a time, before social media, when a man or woman who committed a crime was subjected to the justice system, was convicted or acquitted, and if found guilty served their time and then reentered society. Now, with social media, it seems everybody wants every entity that has any contact with a fallen man/woman to pile on and they insist on public floggings and sacrifices to the media gods in addition to any justice system penalty. Most people I know could care less if Tiger Woods has a promotions contract with Nike and therefore Nike is guilty of adultery if they don't toss his sorry ass out the door immediately.

    Social media, in my view, is the modern day Roman Colosseum crowd chanting, demanding, miscreants be thrown to the lions and they are not satisfied until total destruction is meted out. Then, miraculously, once the person is torn to shreds, they'll start their social media campaign to resurrect the poor person once again. Mob rule and mob mentality is sickening and we're living it day to day in our failing society.
    The Tiger Woods analogy is a good one. Somehow Nike got implicated because he decided to cheat on his wife. Go figure.

    The mob mentality is very much alive and well. In fact, I see it on here.

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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    What hyenas? They didn't discipline him to protect Janay, she's as nutz as he is. They threw the book at him to protect their fan base. Over half of women watch NFL games today. This thuggery isn't new. Football players have long been notorious for rough-housing their women. Twenty years ago it was news. Now? With the internet? With Twitter? Women have found yet another voice to make themselves heard.

    8/31/2014 San Francisco DT Ray McDonald Arrested on suspicion of felony domestic violence in San Jose.
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    5/24/2014 Baltimore RB Lorenzo Taliaferro Arrested for misdemeanor destruction of property and being drunk in public in his hometown of Willliamsburg.

    Way too many thugs in that sport. Time to clean it up.
    Speeding is thuggery?
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Speeding is thuggery?
    If it is, I'm a thug almost daily.

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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Don't put my name on a straw man, and I won't ascribe your dislike of Rice to racism.
    You are the one who said his punishment for beating his wife was excessive. Obviously you must not think it is that big of a deal to beat your wife if you think getting kicked off a sports team is somehow excessive punishment for beating your wife.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    If it is, I'm a thug almost daily.
    Me too. I never realized I was so... bad.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I could almost buy that B.S. if it weren't for how Rice acted after he punched her in the head. A man who wasn't accustomed to beating on women would have put his hands on his head and mimicked a, "WTF did I just doooo????" Not him. Not macho man. He drug her out of the elevator like she was a dead steer in a slaughterhouse.

    She pushed his buttons knowing full well he'd snap. That's what some women do. That's what she did. Because if she wasn't that kind of whore, she'd have had his ass thrown in jail.
    Seriously - a whore? You have no idea about their relationship and maybe she had enough and snapped, finally trying to stand up for herself only to get knocked out for the effort and put back in her place, which she now is. Maybe she isn't strong enough to leave him yet but that certainly doesn't make her a whore for not reporting it.
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