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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Way to entirely miss the point. I was responding to a post that called the nfl the national felons league, claiming that ray rice's behavior should be overlooked.

    Yes, the vast, vast majority of NFL players are not felons, and we do know that for a fact. We also know they're hard working due to the nature of their work.

    All of that aside, people deserve the benefit of the doubt. Innocent till proven guilty, if you will. Unless you have some evidence to suggest all these vast quantities of NFL players are rubbing around hitting women, the presumption ought to be that they don't.

    I don't know for a fact that you don't hit women. You might. But until some evidence surfaces that you're an abusive person, I'm gonna go ahead and assume you aren't. That's how it works.

    You said a ridiculous statement:

    ''The vast, vast majority of NFL players are decent, hard working human beings who would never hit their wives/girlfriends'.'

    and I called you on it.


    So you admit the above statement is TOTALLY unprovable?

    Yes or no, please?

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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Yeah, whip me, beat me, and I'll stand by my man.

    Someday, he'll punch her lights out, and she won't wake up ever again, by then, it'll be too late to save her.

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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    You said a ridiculous statement:

    ''The vast, vast majority of NFL players are decent, hard working human beings who would never hit their wives/girlfriends'.'

    and I called you on it.


    So you admit the above statement is TOTALLY unprovable?

    Yes or no, please?
    You're demanding he prove a negative.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Kick Rice out of professional football and you send the message to young people, many of whom see football players as role models, that if you have dreams of becoming a professional football player, you better not be the kind of man that hits women.
    Do you remember that special time in adolescence where you decided whether or not you should be the kind of man that hits women?

    No, the message being sent is... If you're in the NFL and think you might have an issue with domestic violence, it's very much in your best interest to deny to yourself that a problem exists. Do everything you can to keep it quiet and to keep others quiet.

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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    You're demanding he prove a negative.
    One) I am not demanding anything. I am asking.

    Two) Find someone else to play 'Anal retentive on a chat forum because my life is boring' with. And judging by your number of posts - 15+K in about a year - it's VERY boring.
    Now you will no doubt reply with some vaguely condescending comeback that you feel is quite 'clever'.



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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    One) I am not demanding anything. I am asking.

    Two) Find someone else to play 'Anal retentive on a chat forum because my life is boring' with. And judging by your number of posts - 15+K in about a year - it's VERY boring.
    Now you will no doubt reply with some vaguely condescending comeback that you feel is quite 'clever'.



    Good day.
    You seem nice.
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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    One) I am not demanding anything. I am asking.

    Two) Find someone else to play 'Anal retentive on a chat forum because my life is boring' with. And judging by your number of posts - 15+K in about a year - it's VERY boring.
    Now you will no doubt reply with some vaguely condescending comeback that you feel is quite 'clever'.



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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Do you remember that special time in adolescence where you decided whether or not you should be the kind of man that hits women?

    No, the message being sent is... If you're in the NFL and think you might have an issue with domestic violence, it's very much in your best interest to deny to yourself that a problem exists. Do everything you can to keep it quiet and to keep others quiet.
    What a silly argument. Every man that hits women keeps quiet about it. What do you think that is something that guys put on their match.com profile (Faults: "sometimes I beat women, I am working on that one…"). Do want a system in the NFL where as long as the wife or spouse that gets beat publicly forgives her spouse for it, there is no penalty? "Baby I am so sorry I did this. I don't know what came over me…. It's the stress on the field… I am so, so, so sorry, but you got to forgive me or I could get thrown out of the NFL…"

    It's minimal standard. If you want to make millions in the NFL, don't hit women.
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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    So just assume the worst about people?

    I went to a school that sent a number of kids to the NFL. The vast majority are good kids who work their tails off ecmvery day to pursue their dream. Just because there are a few rotten apples doesn't mean that the whole bunch is bad.
    Because as with everything else, we don't know what goes on behind closed doors. Anyone is capable of anything. Ray Rice also worked his tail off to pursue his dream. You don't reach his caliber by being complacent, yet he is capable of bad doings.

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    Re: Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Neat copout. The screaming from people about Rice's initial punishment not being enough had nothing to do with it, I guess.



    Soul of compassion here.



    No, the media just ginned up the whole thing until the league had no choice but to get rid of him.



    See above.



    That would be your choice.



    As the news media and others were ginning this up with their outrage they might have paused to consider that they were not just hurting Rice but his whole family. Idiots and their stupid moral panic.

    What's the penalty for the crime of knocking out a woman (or any other adult)? It's not a felony. First offence with no criminal history would be a fine of < $1000 in most states.

    And so Rice must lose his career? Seems excessive.



    And the woman gets no say.



    We've heard from a number of people who are very sure they know better how to live Jenet's life than she does.



    And then there are the mind readers and the soothsayers.
    Wait a second. You're blaming everybody but Ray Rice. And I'm copping ?

    Sure the backlash had plenty to do with it. That's called a business repairing it's image with its consumers.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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