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    Re: Fake Cell Towers Allow the NSA and Police to Keep Track of You

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    These fake towers, known as “interceptors,” were discovered in July by users of the CryptoPhone500, one of the ultra-secure cell phones released after Edward Snowden’s leaks about NSA snooping. The phone is essentially a Samsung Galaxy S3 customized with high-level encryption that costs around $3,500. While driving around the country, CryptoPhone users plotted on a map every time they connected to a nameless tower (standard towers run by wireless service providers like Verizon usually have names) and received an alert that the device had turned off their phone’s encryption (allowing their messages to be read).
    This does demonstrate an issue with this information in that it seems to be coming exclusively from a company with a vested financial interest in promoting these kind of fears, regardless of how legitimate they are. It'd be better if there was something from a more independent source (which is so often the problem with this kind of thing of course).

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    Re: Fake Cell Towers Allow the NSA and Police to Keep Track of You

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    This does demonstrate an issue with this information in that it seems to be coming exclusively from a company with a vested financial interest in promoting these kind of fears, regardless of how legitimate they are. It'd be better if there was something from a more independent source (which is so often the problem with this kind of thing of course).
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    Re: Fake Cell Towers Allow the NSA and Police to Keep Track of You

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Newsweek?? Or did I miss something?
    They're just echoing what they've found on the internet and as far as the actual towers go, that seems to be exclusively from the "secure" phone manufacturer (who even boasts how much this has increased their sales).

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there is nothing to it, I just think people should seek independent and balanced information before jumping to the very worst conclusions. If nothing else, it might save you $3,500.

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    Re: Fake Cell Towers Allow the NSA and Police to Keep Track of You

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    From the link. More evidence of the good that came from Snowden's disclosures!


    These fake towers, known as “interceptors,” were discovered in July by users of the CryptoPhone500, one of the ultra-secure cell phones released after Edward Snowden’s leaks about NSA snooping. The phone is essentially a Samsung Galaxy S3 customized with high-level encryption that costs around $3,500. While driving around the country, CryptoPhone users plotted on a map every time they connected to a nameless tower (standard towers run by wireless service providers like Verizon usually have names) and received an alert that the device had turned off their phone’s encryption (allowing their messages to be read).
    My dad is a big radio guy and he said Britain is doing this with airplanes configured as cell towers. They relay your call and record everything that passes through.

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    Re: Fake Cell Towers Allow the NSA and Police to Keep Track of You

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Well thats a bit suspicious, and probably illegal search and seizure. Though, who knows what stuff theyve managed to put in various security laws. Is anyone here ok with the govt capturing your cell phone and then sucking out all your data, without informing you or getting a warrant?
    Fake cell towers used to spy on us?

    That story just smells a lot like the chemtrails story and the 9/11 truther nonsense.

    Of course, pretty much anything you send out via cell phone or computer can be accessed in one way or another. How else do you explain ads for items you have researched online appearing over and over?
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    Re: Fake Cell Towers Allow the NSA and Police to Keep Track of You

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Fake cell towers used to spy on us?

    That story just smells a lot like the chemtrails story and the 9/11 truther nonsense.

    Of course, pretty much anything you send out via cell phone or computer can be accessed in one way or another. How else do you explain ads for items you have researched online appearing over and over?
    I could understand why people would believe this. (I do) Maybe if our government wasn't known for violating Rights and trying to gain as much power as possible not believing it would be a lot easier.
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    Re: Fake Cell Towers Allow the NSA and Police to Keep Track of You

    Why go to the trouble and planning zone arguments to put up dummy towers when there are plenty of the real thing? Likewise keeping a plane in the air is much more complicated than piggybacking on the service providers' towers or their switchgear.
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    I knew it, I knew it, that red on light on your DVR is really a camera and a mic!

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    Re: Fake Cell Towers Allow the NSA and Police to Keep Track of You

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Yes we're sheep and we love our gadgets too much to give them up so we tolerate everything we say, type, or do on these devices as well as turn on GPS so our government knows where we go and how often, to be a normal part of life. Not only do we tolerate it, we have already accepted it. We're already in an Orwellian world - most just haven't realized it yet.
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    Re: Fake Cell Towers Allow the NSA and Police to Keep Track of You

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    How else do you explain ads for items you have researched online appearing over and over?
    Are you familiar with how Google makes all of its money? It's not some big secret spying technology. You're typing words into a box and pushing enter.
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