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    Re: Fake Cell Towers Allow the NSA and Police to Keep Track of You

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    The level of apathy displayed in the face of revelations like this is staggering. Apparently we are going to have to have our freedoms entirely stripped away before people will even understand what the word means.

    I can envision a day in the not too distant future where some government agency could type my name into their computer and instantly receive a recording of every call I've made, every text I've sent or received, and a track of everywhere I've been complete with video footage compiled via facial recognition software from networked security cameras. If that isn't scary enough, look at what's happening with satellite capabilities. Think "live google earth" with about 1000 times the number of pixels.

    Not very long ago this would have been considered tinfoil hat stuff. Today it's very real. The really sick part is, not only do we go along with it, we actually pay for it.
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    Re: Fake Cell Towers Allow the NSA and Police to Keep Track of You

    Technically, the airwaves belong to the government. Companies have to get a license from the FCC to transmit over the government airwaves. The SCOTUS has ruled that what is on your phone, in the memory, is yours and protected under the 4th Amendment, however, once you put information or your voice in the air, it's different.
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    Re: Fake Cell Towers Allow the NSA and Police to Keep Track of You

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    We continue to move towards an Orwellian, Panopticon surveillance state.



    Doesn't look like their is sufficient outrage among the citizenry to stop it anymore.

    Many seem to either embrace or deny the trend. Neither of which makes sense to me.
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    Re: Fake Cell Towers Allow the NSA and Police to Keep Track of You

    So, basically, the point of this is that if you do something on your phone, it is not private.

    Or online, for that matter.






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    Re: Fake Cell Towers Allow the NSA and Police to Keep Track of You

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Technically, the airwaves belong to the government. Companies have to get a license from the FCC to transmit over the government airwaves. The SCOTUS has ruled that what is on your phone, in the memory, is yours and protected under the 4th Amendment, however, once you put information or your voice in the air, it's different.
    Yes, but only because of a "technicality". If we also went by the spirit of the law instead of just the letter of the law it should be very different. Unfortunately politicians and those with agenda's are too ****ing dishonest to go by the spirit of the law.
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    Re: Fake Cell Towers Allow the NSA and Police to Keep Track of You

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Technically, the airwaves belong to the government. Companies have to get a license from the FCC to transmit over the government airwaves. The SCOTUS has ruled that what is on your phone, in the memory, is yours and protected under the 4th Amendment, however, once you put information or your voice in the air, it's different.
    They belong to the people. We allow the govt to moderate the conflicts of everyone using it (though we didnt vote on it). There is obviously no mention of congress being able to make laws regulating personal electrical radiation, but you might be able to argue it under interstate commerce, or argue against it under freedom of speech. But the Bill of Rights makes clear that if the power isnt specified, its reserved to the people and states. Congress should have passed an amendment if they wanted to regulate wireless communication.

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    Re: Fake Cell Towers Allow the NSA and Police to Keep Track of You

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    We continue to move towards an Orwellian, Panopticon surveillance state.



    Doesn't look like their is sufficient outrage among the citizenry to stop it anymore.
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    Re: Fake Cell Towers Allow the NSA and Police to Keep Track of You

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Well thats a bit suspicious, and probably illegal search and seizure. Though, who knows what stuff theyve managed to put in various security laws. Is anyone here ok with the govt capturing your cell phone and then sucking out all your data, without informing you or getting a warrant?
    From the link. More evidence of the good that came from Snowden's disclosures!


    These fake towers, known as “interceptors,” were discovered in July by users of the CryptoPhone500, one of the ultra-secure cell phones released after Edward Snowden’s leaks about NSA snooping. The phone is essentially a Samsung Galaxy S3 customized with high-level encryption that costs around $3,500. While driving around the country, CryptoPhone users plotted on a map every time they connected to a nameless tower (standard towers run by wireless service providers like Verizon usually have names) and received an alert that the device had turned off their phone’s encryption (allowing their messages to be read).
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    Re: Fake Cell Towers Allow the NSA and Police to Keep Track of You

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Technically, the airwaves belong to the government. Companies have to get a license from the FCC to transmit over the government airwaves. The SCOTUS has ruled that what is on your phone, in the memory, is yours and protected under the 4th Amendment, however, once you put information or your voice in the air, it's different.
    And some of us think that that needs to be revisited by the SCOTUS,
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    Re: Fake Cell Towers Allow the NSA and Police to Keep Track of You

    Yes we're sheep and we love our gadgets too much to give them up so we tolerate everything we say, type, or do on these devices as well as turn on GPS so our government knows where we go and how often, to be a normal part of life. Not only do we tolerate it, we have already accepted it. We're already in an Orwellian world - most just haven't realized it yet.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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