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    Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    "nationalist socialist (formerly known as progressives) or liberal democrats"

    Thats acutally known as the roman salute. It was borrowed from the Romans, not "progressive America"
    No no no. Most American progressives during the American progressive era were nationalist socialist. But there were also internationalist socialist and Americans who were neither who were or supported the progressives. But the majority of Americans rejected the progressive movement but accepted many parts of the progressive platform.

    During the American progressive era, progressives were found in both the Democrat and Republican parties. Progressive wrote the prohibition act and wrote most of America's immigration laws until 1965. They were behind criminalizing marijuana, heroin and cocaine. Had more to do with racism. One thing all progressives had in common, they all were racist.

    Until 1970 you could say the vast majority of Americans were nationalistic. The only Americans who weren't were the radical left, CPUSA, its splintter groups and internationalist socialist. But when Hitler attacked Stalin in 1941, even the American communist and internationalist socialist became American nationalist.

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    Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    If I wanted socialism, I'd go to socialism. Why spread that misery here?
    Now its only about "socialism"?
    Also never answered my question: "Doesnt that defeat the basic understandings of freedom, representation, free speech, democracy?"


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    Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    No no no. Most American progressives during the American progressive era were nationalist socialist. But there were also internationalist socialist and Americans who were neither who were or supported the progressives. But the majority of Americans rejected the progressive movement but accepted many parts of the progressive platform.

    During the American progressive era, progressives were found in both the Democrat and Republican parties. Progressive wrote the prohibition act and wrote most of America's immigration laws until 1965. They were behind criminalizing marijuana, heroin and cocaine. Had more to do with racism. One thing all progressives had in common, they all were racist.

    Until 1970 you could say the vast majority of Americans were nationalistic. The only Americans who weren't were the radical left, CPUSA, its splintter groups and internationalist socialist. But when Hitler attacked Stalin in 1941, even the American communist and internationalist socialist became American nationalist.

    Awhh I see we do not learn the basic lessons of history. But none the less keep on believing you petty ****ty rhetoric you spew on here.


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    Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post

    Awhh I see we do not learn the basic lessons of history. But none the less keep on believing you petty ****ty rhetoric you spew on here.
    I'm not a student of revisonist history. I know you have access to a good research library, go down there and start reading the newspaper articles from 1900 to 1941. Pat attention when Hitler comes to power. Pay attention to the labor strikes during 1939 to 1941.

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    Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I'm not a student of revisonist history. I know you have access to a good research library, go down there and start reading the newspaper articles from 1900 to 1941. Pat attention when Hitler comes to power. Pay attention to the labor strikes during 1939 to 1941.
    Hmmm gonna explain how strikes equate to the rise of Hitler?


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    Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I'm not a student of revisonist history. I know you have access to a good research library, go down there and start reading the newspaper articles from 1900 to 1941. Pat attention when Hitler comes to power. Pay attention to the labor strikes during 1939 to 1941.
    Also, the Italian Fascist party platform from the era sounds strikingly like the democrat party platform.

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    Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Also, the Italian Fascist party platform from the era sounds strikingly like the democrat party platform.
    Oh, is that so. Please tell us more.

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I'm not a student of revisonist history.
    I stopped reading there due to my uncontrollable laughter.

    It's funny -- you and I had this exact same conversation several months ago, I completely demolished your asinine arguments, and here you are repeating them verbatim.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I'm not a student of revisonist history. I know you have access to a good research library, go down there and start reading the newspaper articles from 1900 to 1941. Pat attention when Hitler comes to power. Pay attention to the labor strikes during 1939 to 1941.
    Also, the Italian Fascist party platform from the era sounds strikingly like the democrat party platform.

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    Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Oh, is that so. Please tell us more.
    It is so.

    - The prompt enactment of a state law sanctioning a legal work day of eight actual hours of work for all workers.

    - A minimum wage.

    - The creation of various government bodies run by workers' representatives.

    - Reform of the old-age and pension system and the establishment of age limits for hazardous work.

    - Forcing landowners to cultivate their lands or have them expropriated and given to veterans and farmers' cooperatives.

    - The obligation of the state to build "rigidly secular" schools for the raising of "the proletariat's moral and cultural condition."

    - A large and progressive tax on capital that would amount to a one-time partial expropriation of all riches.

    - The seizure of all goods belonging to religious congregations and the abolition of episcopal revenues.

    - The "review" of all military contracts and the "sequestration of 85% of all war profits.

    - The nationalization of all arms and explosives industries.

    Jeffrey T. Schnapp pp. 3-6; Charles F. Delzell, Mediterranean Fascism 1919-1945 (New York; Harper and Row, 1970) pp. 12-13

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    Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Hmmm gonna explain how strikes equate to the rise of Hitler?
    Greetings, TheDemSocialist.

    From what I've read, he used them to advance his agenda of controlling all business, and when that was accomplished, he then dismantled and did away with them. He then totally controlled all businesses.

    My grandfather, in his will, left me boxes of Reader's Digests from the 20 year period 1930 to 1950, and they make for a very interesting history lesson, reported by the people who were living them every day. The Holocaust was just a sickening part of that history, and it was a result of all that had happened previously.

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