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    Re: Record 92,269,000 Not in Labor Force; Participation Rate Matches 36-Year Low

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    No, they need meaningful work, and help to find it for them, if needed.
    A novel concept!

    Have you given much thought on how the Congress could assist in such an endeavor?
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Record 92,269,000 Not in Labor Force; Participation Rate Matches 36-Year Low

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    A novel concept!

    Have you given much thought on how the Congress could assist in such an endeavor?
    Meaningful job training, which is out there.
    Any hour worked paid or unpaid (volunteer) elevates the benefits, rather than cutting them off = partial support if paid (I also believe that's in there too), just to too many aren't availing them of the opportunities that these programs represent to them. Too bad really.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: Record 92,269,000 Not in Labor Force; Participation Rate Matches 36-Year Low

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Meaningful job training, which is out there.
    Um, the issue is not worker supply, it is job supply.
    Any hour worked paid or unpaid (volunteer) elevates the benefits, rather than cutting them off = partial support if paid (I also believe that's in there too), just to too many aren't availing them of the opportunities that these programs represent to them. Too bad really.
    I asked how Congress could assist the need (of creating meaningful work, ie J...O...B..S).
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Record 92,269,000 Not in Labor Force; Participation Rate Matches 36-Year Low

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Meaningful job training, which is out there.
    Any hour worked paid or unpaid (volunteer) elevates the benefits, rather than cutting them off = partial support if paid (I also believe that's in there too), just to too many aren't availing them of the opportunities that these programs represent to them. Too bad really.
    Do they know they're available? If someone wanted to keep you in the dark about bettering yourself, would they be shouting this from the rooftops? Just askin... If they do know, and choose not to participate, then stop whining about how miserable and ill-treated you are! It could be your own fault! :

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    Re: Record 92,269,000 Not in Labor Force; Participation Rate Matches 36-Year Low

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Um, the issue is not worker supply, it is job supply.
    I asked how Congress could assist the need (of creating meaningful work, ie J...O...B..S).
    Congress can only create government jobs, which is growing the overhead.

    The best that congress can do is remove the barriers to private sector growth which will lead to jobs, i.e. private sector demand for a larger workforce.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: Record 92,269,000 Not in Labor Force; Participation Rate Matches 36-Year Low

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Congress can only create government jobs, which is growing the overhead.
    Absolutely false.

    The best that congress can do is remove the barriers to private sector growth which will lead to jobs, i.e. private sector demand for a larger workforce.
    Not only is this contradictory to your first part, it is a non-answer.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Record 92,269,000 Not in Labor Force; Participation Rate Matches 36-Year Low

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Do they know they're available? If someone wanted to keep you in the dark about bettering yourself, would they be shouting this from the rooftops? Just askin... If they do know, and choose not to participate, then stop whining about how miserable and ill-treated you are! It could be your own fault! :
    They don't. However, they are very innovative and ingenious.


    UNCLE SAM is being bilked, big-time. Losses from health-care scams alone are between $70 billion and $240 billion a year, reckons the FBI. An ever higher percentage of frauds (false claims for welfare payments, tax refunds and so on) are being perpetrated with stolen identities. Some 12.6m people—one every three seconds—fell victim to identity theft in the United States in 2012, according to Javelin Strategy and Research. The problem only grows as benefit programmes strive for efficiency and convenience, shifting applications online and making payments to prepaid debit cards, which can be bought in shops, require no bank account and allow money to be laundered quickly and easily. The self-proclaimed first lady of tax-refund fraud is Rashia Wilson (posing with the loot on her Facebook page, above) who, along with her eager associates, claimed bogus rebates of more than $11m.

    . . . .

    . . . .
    Stealing from the government: SIRF

    Frankly, I have no money, time, or patience for this sort of abuse of public monies.

    Some say that you'd spend more trying to prosecute it than you are losing through the fraud. Somehow, the principals of the matter are lost. That's really too bad when principals are so easily sacrificed.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: Record 92,269,000 Not in Labor Force; Participation Rate Matches 36-Year Low

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Its always amazing how one can says its "pocket change" when its over $60 billion and not their money. I guess you'd call that label progressives but I call them criminals stealing from those who work hard and are forced to pay taxes for those who don't bother.
    What on earth are you talking about? Through this entire discussion you have been about as clear as the Mississippi River. What is $60B? When did we start talking about any numbers. I am only discussing the composition of "Not in the Workforce"... there was never a discussion of dollars. Are you off on off student loans... do you really want to go there?

    As to not paying taxes, I don't have a clue where you get that idea... probably operating from impression rather than facts. I, for one, have paid quite a lot in federal taxes.. like well over 7 figures a lot.... so, I have full proxy in discussion of how the government should spend it money....
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    Re: Record 92,269,000 Not in Labor Force; Participation Rate Matches 36-Year Low

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    It's still disconcerting that so many don't participate in the labor force.

    To my mind, the human benefits from work, kinda like occupational therapy. Having so many sit about idle, not producing, not caring for themselves, expecting everyone else that produces to provide for them, is really corrosive to those people receiving in many ways. No, they need meaningful work, and help to find it for them, if needed.
    Did you see why people don't participate in the labor force? The 92 million is substantially comprised of the retired, the disabled, stay-at-home moms and students. Perhaps the solution starts with you: call your grandma up, tell her she is deadbeat and needs to get off her A.

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    Re: Record 92,269,000 Not in Labor Force; Participation Rate Matches 36-Year Low

    And republicans cut the IRS budget so there is no one to audit returns.
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