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    Re: Teen sues DMV after being told to remove makeup

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    This is going nowhere, so one last time and then I'm done.

    The DMV would ask a girl/woman to remove their makeup should that makeup be used to disguise who they naturally are. If a woman or man is listed as Caucasian/white on their data and they present wearing blackface makeup they will be asked to remove the makeup before their picture is taken no matter how much they may bitch and moan about walking around in blackface all day every day - it's that simple.

    DMV clerks aren't known for being the sharpest knives in the drawer so to expect them to intuitively know that in everyday life someone wears sufficient makeup to hide who they are is not going to happen - they simply look at a person as they present themselves and make a judgement. 999 times out of 1000 I'm betting they don't have an issue - one time, like this, they might. If 999 people out of 1000 can follow the common sense procedures and not be so self-obsessed and in need of unreasonable attention, that last person can do the same - or, they can take the bus.
    You just said that all makeup disguises who a person naturally is. There is no evidence that any girl has been asked to remove their makeup for this DMV. I'm willing to bet there have been hundreds more girls/women going through this particular DMV in a month with more makeup than this boy has on.

    Race is not on most (if any) driver's licenses. What if one of these girls listed "black" or "white" on some official document/ID that did have their race on it? Would they be wrong?

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    Those little girls are both mixed babies yet only one could claim she was black on an official ID (if they actually mentioned the race on there).

    Makeup is not something that is gender mandated to either have or not have. There are no laws that say a man/boy/male cannot wear makeup.

    I asked before, but here's an even easier one. If this boy walked into a bank with that makeup on, would he be asked to leave for "wearing a disguise"? I'm willing to bet no bank would be willing to ask him to leave.

    It doesn't matter how bright they are or not. They should know better and that proves the state has a lack of training in this area. More likely is that many in the state agree that men shouldn't wear makeup despite the fact that this is an issue of discrimination.

    In all likelihood, this kid will win his case in court eventually. It may not be the first court, but by the end, he should prevail because this is blatant gender discrimination.
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    Re: Teen sues DMV after being told to remove makeup

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    What good is a photo ID if one is in disguise?
    If he were out somewhere in makeup and presented his photo ID where he wasn't wearing makeup what good would it be?
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    Re: Teen sues DMV after being told to remove makeup

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    If he were out somewhere in makeup and presented his photo ID where he wasn't wearing makeup what good would it be?
    That's his problem The state wants to see what you actually look like before issuing a license.
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    Re: Teen sues DMV after being told to remove makeup

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    That's his problem The state wants to see what you actually look like before issuing a license.
    No. That is not the case here at all. Otherwise, they would make girls/women remove their makeup too before they could take a driver's license photo. Since they don't, that means this is gender discrimination.
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    Re: Teen sues DMV after being told to remove makeup

    Quote Originally Posted by Gringo allstar View Post
    The purpose of ID is???? Identification!! He can play dress up after he gets his photo taken. Find another cause to get behind because this isn't it, you just look irrational and quite frankly stupid.
    But if he wears the makeup while driving....then it would make better Identification if it's in his photo also.


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    Re: Teen sues DMV after being told to remove makeup

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    That's his problem The state wants to see what you actually look like before issuing a license.
    Ah, but if he's using it as ID and then needs ID it doesn't look like him. Then it's not a very good ID is it?


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    Re: Teen sues DMV after being told to remove makeup

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Ah, but if he's using it as ID and then needs ID it doesn't look like him. Then it's not a very good ID is it?
    The person who is looking at his ID must decide if it's him or not.

    One of my customers hired this kid who painted himself gold everyday until one day it was something different. IMO the law shouldn't need to accommodated weirdness.
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    Re: Teen sues DMV after being told to remove makeup

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    But if he wears the makeup while driving....then it would make better Identification if it's in his photo also.
    We used to call this impersonating a female. Until he gets his wee wee loped off gets fake tits and takes hormones HE needs to be IDed for what he is.. A male.
    I'm sure he would also want to shower with the girls after gym class also so I guess we should allow that to?? Because we sure don't want his feelings hurt or for him to be offended, screw how others feel about it? I'm sure he will sue Hooters in the future because he has every right to be a Hooters girl also.

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    Re: Teen sues DMV after being told to remove makeup

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No. That is not the case here at all. Otherwise, they would make girls/women remove their makeup too before they could take a driver's license photo. Since they don't, that means this is gender discrimination.
    So then I should be able to shower with women at the gym, or else it's gender discrimination? ?

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    Re: Teen sues DMV after being told to remove makeup

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You just said that all makeup disguises who a person naturally is. There is no evidence that any girl has been asked to remove their makeup for this DMV. I'm willing to bet there have been hundreds more girls/women going through this particular DMV in a month with more makeup than this boy has on.

    Race is not on most (if any) driver's licenses. What if one of these girls listed "black" or "white" on some official document/ID that did have their race on it? Would they be wrong?

    black-white-twins3.jpg

    Those little girls are both mixed babies yet only one could claim she was black on an official ID (if they actually mentioned the race on there).

    Makeup is not something that is gender mandated to either have or not have. There are no laws that say a man/boy/male cannot wear makeup.

    I asked before, but here's an even easier one. If this boy walked into a bank with that makeup on, would he be asked to leave for "wearing a disguise"? I'm willing to bet no bank would be willing to ask him to leave.

    It doesn't matter how bright they are or not. They should know better and that proves the state has a lack of training in this area. More likely is that many in the state agree that men shouldn't wear makeup despite the fact that this is an issue of discrimination.

    In all likelihood, this kid will win his case in court eventually. It may not be the first court, but by the end, he should prevail because this is blatant gender discrimination.
    The reason there is no laws on the books for this it's because it wasn't need. People used to have common sense! But the education system as beat that out of them, so now we have nonsense such as this.

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