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    Re: Teen sues DMV after being told to remove makeup

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    That state interest would be....security and integrity of the system. It's not difficult.
    Isn't that kind of vague, like when people use phrases such as "for your protection", which sounds good but usually doesn't mean anything? So, could you expand on that? Shouldn't be too difficult. Thanks.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Teen sues DMV after being told to remove makeup

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Not good enough since there is no laws that prevent a man from wearing makeup or dressing like a woman so it clearly is not a disguise just for a guy to wear makeup. That is an excuse.
    It trumps his silly fetish.
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    Re: Teen sues DMV after being told to remove makeup

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    It trumps his silly fetish.
    No, actually it doesn't. You can't prove that he was trying to "disguise" his real appearance just because he was wearing makeup. You are making an assumption based solely on your personal bias against guys wearing makeup or dressing like a woman.
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    Re: Teen sues DMV after being told to remove makeup

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No, actually it doesn't. You can't prove that he was trying to "disguise" his real appearance just because he was wearing makeup. You are making an assumption based solely on your personal bias against guys wearing makeup or dressing like a woman.
    You mean my personal experience with guys dressing up as women. Now who's assuming?
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    Re: Teen sues DMV after being told to remove makeup

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    You mean my personal experience with guys dressing up as women. Now who's assuming?
    Which doesn't mean crap. You are projecting whatever nonsense you believe about men wearing women's clothing or accessories on everyone. The plain truth is that most men who wear women's clothing and/or accessories, including makeup and/or hairstyles, are not trying to disguise themselves. They are simply being themselves.

    I have brothers who wear women's clothing, one is transgendered and will one day legally be a woman, the other merely likes the feel of women's clothing on his skin (says it feels better than men's). They aren't trying to disguise themselves, they are simply being who they are. I know many men who wear makeup.

    Especially in this case. It wouldn't make any sense for a man to wear women's clothing to get their state ID/driver's license done as a "disguise". What kind of disguise would that be? Especially the way this kid was wearing his.
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    Re: Teen sues DMV after being told to remove makeup

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Which doesn't mean crap. You are projecting whatever nonsense you believe about men wearing women's clothing or accessories on everyone. The plain truth is that most men who wear women's clothing and/or accessories, including makeup and/or hairstyles, are not trying to disguise themselves. They are simply being themselves.

    I have brothers who wear women's clothing, one is transgendered and will one day legally be a woman, the other merely likes the feel of women's clothing on his skin (says it feels better than men's). They aren't trying to disguise themselves, they are simply being who they are. I know many men who wear makeup.

    Especially in this case. It wouldn't make any sense for a man to wear women's clothing to get their state ID/driver's license done as a "disguise". What kind of disguise would that be? Especially the way this kid was wearing his.
    Yep.. no bias coming from your end.

    I don't give a rat's ass if someone wants to dress up like a woman/man or wants or to change their gender but, when it comes to being able to positively identify someone and make sure they are not a risk to others or are trying to skate the law, silly fetishes need to step aside.
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    Re: Teen sues DMV after being told to remove makeup

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Yep.. no bias coming from your end.

    I don't give a rat's ass if someone wants to dress up like a woman/man or wants or to change their gender but, when it comes to being able to positively identify someone and make sure they are not a risk to others or are trying to skate the law, silly fetishes need to step aside.
    And your problem continues to be that you want others to meet your expectations of how someone should dress or look based on their gender. Too bad. They are not required to abide by your gender stereotyping. They are not any risk to others just because they are male and wear women's clothing, wear makeup, or look/act feminine. It isn't your place to determine who has a "fetish" or not, particularly when you obviously have no clue what a "fetish" even is.
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    Re: Teen sues DMV after being told to remove makeup

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And your problem continues to be that you want others to meet your expectations of how someone should dress or look based on their gender. Too bad. They are not required to abide by your gender stereotyping. They are not any risk to others just because they are male and wear women's clothing, wear makeup, or look/act feminine. It isn't your place to determine who has a "fetish" or not, particularly when you obviously have no clue what a "fetish" even is.
    Your problem is comprehension. Get some!
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    Re: Teen sues DMV after being told to remove makeup

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Your problem is comprehension. Get some!
    You have failed to show how a man dressing as what you feel should be exclusively reserved for women is any kind of threat to anyone. It simply isn't.
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    Re: Teen sues DMV after being told to remove makeup

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You have failed to show how a man dressing as what you feel should be exclusively reserved for women is any kind of threat to anyone. It simply isn't.
    I don't need to prove anything. ANYONE can be a threat. That's the point of proper vetting and identification.
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