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    Re: Al Qaeda Opens Branch in Indian Subcontinent

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I have little doubt that this is exactly what president John McCain would be doing.



    Yeah, it's different because it's not a real war. It's not against a tangible enemy. It's against an ideology. And that's an unwinnable war. It's a war against anyone we don't like in the Middle East. Guess what, that's never going to go away. And we keep creating more enemies with our violence. The only way to win this war is not to fight it. We were supposed to "stay vigilant", basically forever, to allow our rights to be stripped away in the name of security, and to keep us afraid and thus complacent. The war on terror is literally the fake perpetual war from 1984.
    You mustn't be so negative. Think about how a war on an ideology could be open ended and the perennial benefits to the MIC!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Monte all Politics is partisan. Unless it is agreed upon. Yes and that's why I told you to note the date and to Bush Junior's correction on the matter. Which you completely denied it ever happened. But there it is in Black and White and with his Speech to top it off. Also with the Bi partisan Center for Strategic and International Studies. So it is validated that Bush Corrected himself from 2003 and did so in 2006. There is no getting around that fact.
    If by that you mean that its impossible to hold a political opinion, unless one is partisan, I categorically disagree with you. I, for one, am not a party to either the democrats or the republicans. At times I agree with GOP positions, and at times I agree with the democratic parties positions. Whereas partisans don't afford themselves that logic and objectivity. No, the partisan is staunch in his support of his party, and never EVER concedes that his party is wrong on an issue and the other party is right. You display this here endlessly. Obama can't possibly be wrong on everything, just as Bush can't possibly have been right on everything. But then let the true believer partisan tell it.

    And that asshole changed his toon three years hence because he was wrong, and he's still WRONG, as evidenced by the fact that he wasted 4,500 soldiers lives, 1.5 trillion dollars, and tens of thousands, perhaps more Iraqi civilian lives, and al Qaeda LIVES. Was used by us to help topple Gaddafi, being used by us in an attempt to topple Assad. They live!!
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    Re: Al Qaeda Opens Branch in Indian Subcontinent

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    If by that you mean that its impossible to hold a political opinion, unless one is partisan, I categorically disagree with you. I, for one, am not a party to either the democrats or the republicans. At times I agree with GOP positions, and at times I agree with the democratic parties positions. Whereas partisans don't afford themselves that logic and objectivity. No, the partisan is staunch in his support of his party, and never EVER concedes that his party is wrong on an issue and the other party is right. You display this here endlessly. Obama can't possibly be wrong on everything, just as Bush can't possibly have been right on everything. But then let the true believer partisan tell it.

    And that asshole changed his toon three years hence because he was wrong, and he's still WRONG, as evidenced by the fact that he wasted 4,500 soldiers lives, 1.5 trillion dollars, and tens of thousands, perhaps more Iraqi civilian lives, and al Qaeda LIVES. Was used by us to help topple Gaddafi, being used by us in an attempt to topple Assad. They live!!
    Each to their own and with their own partisanship. Hence your partisanship against 98% of what the US does to protect its own Sovereignty. With you none can be Right. Just other countries and with what they do an cause. Then there is no blame to them whatsoever. No bringing out what they caused or who started what. No blame as for their own actions.

    Basically once the US shows up you make sure to point out how the US is at fault and to blame. Even if they were in the Right to do so. Or forced by treaty to do so. Or break their word and commitment.

    Oh and Monte.....when the Repubs get close to that mark set by the Demos with 56k dead. Then you might have some ground to stand on with the loss of and waste of life.

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    Re: Al Qaeda Opens Branch in Indian Subcontinent

    Everything bad that happens anywhere in the world is 100% the fault of Barack Hussein Obama.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Al Qaeda Opens Branch in Indian Subcontinent

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Each to their own and with their own partisanship. Hence your partisanship against 98% of what the US does to protect its own Sovereignty. With you none can be Right. Just other countries and with what they do an cause. Then there is no blame to them whatsoever. No bringing out what they caused or who started what. No blame as for their own actions.

    Basically once the US shows up you make sure to point out how the US is at fault and to blame. Even if they were in the Right to do so. Or forced by treaty to do so. Or break their word and commitment.

    Oh and Monte.....when the Repubs get close to that mark set by the Demos with 56k dead. Then you might have some ground to stand on with the loss of and waste of life.
    I am decidedly NO partisan

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    And where do you get your 98% number from? My criticisms are of US foreign policies of intrigue!! War, exploitation, and killing of innocence, whereas your partisan position causes you to support all of that. And your claim that our ME policies are defending our sovereignty is pure HOGWASH. Your looking at imperialism! Hegemony!

    Ukraine isn't NATO, dispite the fact that the West has attempted to make it such. So no article 5 commitment.

    Oh, and MMC. One wasted American life gives me concrete ground to stand on.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Everything bad that happens anywhere in the world is 100% the fault of Barack Hussein Obama.
    Totally false, while he's not the best on foreign policy, he's ok. And, there's plenty of other people around the world carrying out mischief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Totally false, while he's not the best on foreign policy, he's ok. And, there's plenty of other people around the world carrying out mischief.
    Sarcasm does not convey well on the internets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Sarcasm does not convey well on the internets.
    Lol, Sorry dude, actually I should have caught that based on other posts I've read of yours. Funny subtlety there with your s.
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    Re: Al Qaeda Opens Branch in Indian Subcontinent

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I am decidedly NO partisan

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    And where do you get your 98% number from? My criticisms are of US foreign policies of intrigue!! War, exploitation, and killing of innocence, whereas your partisan position causes you to support all of that. And your claim that our ME policies are defending our sovereignty is pure HOGWASH. Your looking at imperialism! Hegemony!

    Ukraine isn't NATO, dispite the fact that the West has attempted to make it such. So no article 5 commitment.

    Oh, and MMC. One wasted American life gives me concrete ground to stand on.


    Champion and More, huh? Yeah and those that lead.

    Pretty much from all your rants blaming both sides of the Aisle. Which concerns pretty much all of US Foreign Policy. Knowing there is no other. Sometimes War and exploitation have to be supported.....Correct? No the US isn't just out killing innocence. Or there would be a whole hell of lot more bodies and the attitude of that like the Russians. Also War is agreed upon in the country by Whom? That's Right.....takes an agreement to go to War. So much for your rant about Partisanship.

    Also....I didn't state anything about ME policies concerning Sovereignty. I stated that even if any policies were about Sovereignty you oppose them. Unless it was specifically about the Physical security of the US. Which you already know.....Sovereignty and Foreign Policy do at times take place.

    No it doesn't.....does the needs of the one.....outweigh the needs of the many?

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    Re: Al Qaeda Opens Branch in Indian Subcontinent

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Champion and More, huh? Yeah and those that lead.

    Pretty much from all your rants blaming both sides of the Aisle. Which concerns pretty much all of US Foreign Policy. Knowing there is no other. Sometimes War and exploitation have to be supported.....Correct? No the US isn't just out killing innocence. Or there would be a whole hell of lot more bodies and the attitude of that like the Russians. Also War is agreed upon in the country by Whom? That's Right.....takes an agreement to go to War. So much for your rant about Partisanship.

    Also....I didn't state anything about ME policies concerning Sovereignty. I stated that even if any policies were about Sovereignty you oppose them. Unless it was specifically about the Physical security of the US. Which you already know.....Sovereignty and Foreign Policy do at times take place.

    No it doesn't.....does the needs of the one.....outweigh the needs of the many?
    Yes, champion of the party and more!

    When have I opposed a policy that would protect our nations sovereignty?

    Yes, I can imagine any number of scenarios that we might engage in war, with a moral authority. But it would be defense against an attacking army. And I don't mean one that we aggravated, antagonised or provoked into attack.

    And, if my posts are mere rants to you, and have no value, I don't know why you bother.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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