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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily[W:20]

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    No he didn't. Try to post in at least some semblance of reality
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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Of course, there's no evidence that ISIS actually is bringing in cells through Mexico, but hey, what's a little hysterical fear-mongering, amirite?



    LOL indeed, since such a scenario is preposterous. Take your deranged hyperbole someplace else.
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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily

    Read, and you'll see that policies including, (but pre-dating as well) the Obama administration have been beneficial to ISIS. And! The borders have been open for a very, VERY long time.

    Former CIA officer says US policies helped create IS

    Read more: Former CIA officer says US policies helped create IS - Al-Monitor: the Pulse of the Middle East
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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Read, and you'll see that policies including, (but pre-dating as well) the Obama administration have been beneficial to ISIS. And! The borders have been open for a very, VERY long time.

    Former CIA officer says US policies helped create IS

    Read more: Former CIA officer says US policies helped create IS - Al-Monitor: the Pulse of the Middle East
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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily[W:20]

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Small operations don't "militarily destroy" terrorist groups either. In fact, the military is not an appropriate means to combat terrorist groups.

    Either the senator doesn't know this, which makes him unfit to serve, or he is using IS as an excuse to drum up more wasteful defense spending.
    Obama just said he wants to "dismantle" ISIS. Do you think we should be expecting an invasion?
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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily[W:20]

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Small operations don't "militarily destroy" terrorist groups either.
    You're right here, they don't. At least, not on their own. It is important the remove the factors that enable these groups to prosper, but also work with the ME countries to remove the groups that do exist. That does mean some military action.


    In fact, the military is not an appropriate means to combat terrorist groups.
    So we should not have responded militarily to 9/11?
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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily[W:20]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    You're right here, they don't. At least, not on their own. It is important the remove the factors that enable these groups to prosper, but also work with the ME countries to remove the groups that do exist. That does mean some military action.




    So we should not have responded militarily to 9/11?
    I heartily agree with your first point. To the second, no. And a very large majority of Americans now view the A-Stan war as a mistake, and at least a simple majority view the Iraq war similarly.
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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily[W:20]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I heartily agree with your first point. To the second, no. And a very large majority of Americans now view the A-Stan war as a mistake, and at least a simple majority view the Iraq war similarly.
    Actually, I think its a large majority of Americans agree we should be out of Afghanistan now, but that isn't the same as saying we shouldn't have gone in the first place.

    Personally, I do think a full-scale war was a mistake for Afghanistan and definitely Iraq. But I think organizing a task force mission to capture/kill Bin Ladin was necessary.
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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily[W:20]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Obama just said he wants to "dismantle" ISIS. Do you think we should be expecting an invasion?
    If you believe the three-stage plan that some unnamed US officials are claiming is in the works, then no.
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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily[W:20]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    You're right here, they don't. At least, not on their own. It is important the remove the factors that enable these groups to prosper, but also work with the ME countries to remove the groups that do exist. That does mean some military action.
    Not necessarily. Sharing intelligence and strategic planning could accomplish the same goal.

    So we should not have responded militarily to 9/11?
    The 12/11 military action was a direct result of the Taliban's refusal to hand over bin Laden. They could just as easily have said, "Come over here and take him; just don't shoot us on the way in."
    I fight against the ignorant, irresponsible, and/or closed-minded.
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