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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily[W:20]

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Agree wholeheartedly on everything you say. However, looking in the past at our mistakes and wishing we'd done it different isn't the answer. I'm sure you know that. I think Paul realizes that as well. We screwed the pooch on this one. BIG time. Removing Assad was absolutely stupid. Removing Saddam was stupid. Removing most of these guys is stupid. As someone who has been to that portion of the world more times than I'd like to remember, I can say unequivocally that power and strength speak more to people of the ME than anything else. They don't care if someone is kind or compassionate. That is weak to them. Power and strength represent leadership to them. A gov't whose troops can't even combat a threat that doesn't have air, indirect, or armor capabilities is ridiculous. I know for a fact that the Iraqi Army is capable of defeating ISIS. I have fought beside them many times. The issue is that they don't want to fight their current gov't. They'd rather give up and live another day than fight their country. There is no national pride, no system that will take care of their families if they're injured/killed, no VA (as bad as ours sucks) that will process disability for them, etc, etc. They have nothing to fight for other than a paycheck, which they have to be alive to collect.
    Our gov't has basically sent us down a rabbit hole that we can't remove ourselves from. Every time we've interfered in the ME in the past 35-40 years, it's stoked the flame that is currently burning. Now, we're at the point where we can't walk away from the fire because it will spread here if we do. Clinton attempted to pull away from over there more than anyone and it led to Sept 11. People of the ME have long memories. They don't have Twitter and Facebook and all of these other distractions (for the most part). They still spread their info via word of mouth, books, and during their religious gatherings. As a result, we are the demon and always will be. No matter what we do, we will stay that way.
    Well said brother. I think what I read between the lines perhaps a little, is that citizens of the Middle East do better under an authoritarian type structure. Perhaps they could evolve into democracies someday. But evolution is a long slow process. Removing such figures, installing a puppet government, holding an election and then leaving, declaring a new democracy and success, is silly.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily[W:20]

    Where's the right complaining about Rand Paul drawing a "red line" by saying if he was president he would destroy ISIS militarily? Last I checked Rand Paul still would have to get congressional approval for the scale he is talking about.

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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily[W:20]

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    "If I were president, I would call a joint session of Congress. I would lay out the reasoning of why ISIS is a threat to our national security and seek congressional authorization to destroy ISIS militarily. [AP]"

    Rand paul the Neocon. That didn't take long. Well at least he didn't give a bribe like his dad.

    Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily' - The Week

    I thought he was a isolationist.

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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily[W:20]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Where's the right complaining about Rand Paul drawing a "red line" by saying if he was president he would destroy ISIS militarily? Last I checked Rand Paul still would have to get congressional approval for the scale he is talking about.

    Drawing Red Lines isn't the issue.

    Allowing the exposure of your empty rhetoric by allowing those Red lines to be crossed is the issue.

    Its what Obama was criticized for.

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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily[W:20]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    citizens of the Middle East do better under an authoritarian type structure. Perhaps they could evolve into democracies someday. But evolution is a long slow process.
    That's racist.

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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily[W:20]

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    "If I were president, I would call a joint session of Congress. I would lay out the reasoning of why ISIS is a threat to our national security and seek congressional authorization to destroy ISIS militarily. [AP]"

    Rand paul the Neocon. That didn't take long. Well at least he didn't give a bribe like his dad.

    Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily' - The Week
    You mean interfere in the national politics of other countries by bombing them? He would not need congressional authority he would need international cooperation and approval from the UN/Syria.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily[W:20]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Where's the right complaining about Rand Paul drawing a "red line" by saying if he was president he would destroy ISIS militarily? Last I checked Rand Paul still would have to get congressional approval for the scale he is talking about.
    I'll complain for you. Yeah, he was not too long ago complaining that US policies in Syria were beneficial to IS. Then he makes this declaration. Oh, and if you saw the whole piece, he specifically said he would make his clear case to and secure congressional approval to do so.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily[W:20]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    That's racist.
    No, its not. What's racist is the US killing Muslims and your support of it.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily[W:20]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No, its not. What's racist is the US killing Muslims and your support of it.
    Muslims nor ISIS are a race. You called Arabs subhuman, that's racist.

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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily[W:20]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Muslims nor ISIS are a race. You called Arabs subhuman, that's racist.
    The US is killing plenty of Arab Muslims with your support. Doesn't make you pretty.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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