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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Except that simply isn't true. Unless the 26 million Iraqis living in Iraq at the time the US toppled Saddam escaped you.
    You forget that ghadafi was killing his own people.
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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily[W:20]

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    To my knowledge he hasn't pushed for committing troops anywhere that they weren't already deployed when he took office.
    Can you point me to a quote where he said he wished to "commit the troops" somewhere?
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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    I don't usually believe in drastic sudden moves when it comes to government. A reduction in our military presence should be gradual. We should put the pressure on terrorist groups, but military action is only a short term solution (and can often lead to longterm problems as history teachers us). To 'defeat' terrorism we need a prevention program. Not repeating the mistakes from the past is a start. We should rethink our support of oppressive dictators. We should promote diplomacy and trade even to places like Palestine.

    I think few people here or anywhere actually promote complete withdrawal from ME or Asia when it comes to trade.
    Totally agreed. We should be all up into the ME regarding trade. And truly helping the region and the people's, rather then exploiting them. I like the rethinking our policy part of your post the best. Unfortunately, I don't think that will come from the typical democrat or republican candidate. And previous candidates that have espoused such have been marginalised by the media who themselves have their fingers deep within the defense industry. And, third world dictators can be propped up, for latter removal, as you somewhat mentioned.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    You forget that ghadafi was killing his own people.
    No, I didn't forget any such thing. But clearly you forgot that Obama abused the UN resolution for use of force which was issued to protect those civilians that were being killed, to overthrow the government of Libya. Which was immediately pointed out by Russia and China, and is the very reason the two of them blocked all attempts by the US to secure a resolution for the use of force in Syria. Because the US has shown they can't be trusted. So............not only has US policy in the region helped ISIS, it is driving Russia and China closer together. You may fancy that, but that could also bite us latter. But go right ahead and continue your support of the status quo, and the ME will remain inflamed and our military and defense contractors will have job security, which is as much what this is all about as anything else.
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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily[W:20]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Can you point me to a quote where he said he wished to "commit the troops" somewhere?
    Do you know of any other way to destroy an enemy militarily without committing troops to finish the job?
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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The point CJ is that Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad GAVE NO QUARTER to these extremists!! Now they have it. So.............whether these "new" governments are unable, unwilling or just incompetent, is besides the point. They have flourished in the power vacuums that we have created. Period. China and Russia both warned that we would get what we've got for doing so, and people like you continue to support a continuance of the same! This is nuts!!
    Sad but true. Remember how the Cheney/Bush propaganda machine tried desperately to link Saddam with al Qaeda. Even they didn't believe it. But the conservatives floated it and the American people (or some of them) did.

    Of course conservatives never apologized or took responsibility when the truth came out:

    Hussein's Iraq and al Qaeda not linked, Pentagon says - CNN.com

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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily

    Quote Originally Posted by FaceofBachmann View Post
    Sad but true. Remember how the Cheney/Bush propaganda machine tried desperately to link Saddam with al Qaeda. Even they didn't believe it. But the conservatives floated it and the American people (or some of them) did.

    Of course conservatives never apologized or took responsibility when the truth came out:

    Hussein's Iraq and al Qaeda not linked, Pentagon says - CNN.com
    That's because you believed CNN's BS.

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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily

    Yes, it was all a CNN conspiracy. Thank God Bush Cheney and Fox News weren't proposing such nonsense. But wait!

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...da-and-saddam/

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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily

    Quote Originally Posted by FaceofBachmann View Post
    Yes, it was all a CNN conspiracy. Thank God Bush Cheney and Fox News weren't proposing such nonsense. But wait!
    So let me guess, your entire purpose is to complain about Fox news and Republicans. Amirite?
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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily

    It was the Pentagon speaking with CNN reporting.

    Americas number one conservative magazine! Good link.
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