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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily[W:20]

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    Imagine the economic stimulus we could have provided by spending that money at home. Republicans love spending as long as it doesn't benefit americans.
    Right, and Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad would still be in power, and rough as they were, none of them gave quarter to the militant Islamists that have flourished in the power vacuums that the US has created there. What we see today, both China and Russia warned of years ago, is the reason they have both stood in opposition to the US at the UN, and why they are forging stronger alliances!!
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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Well, since you put it that way, what is the Canadian government willing to do - or more appropriately, what steps have your government taken - to halt this ISIS threat from spreading?

    Seems to me you're very willing to put down your neighbor's leader yet tug/hide behind the skirt of protection he provides all the while condemning him for not doing things your way. When the song "Blame Canada" plays I want you to understand what I blame you for at this point: resting on your laurels while enjoying the very "peace through strength" America provides.

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    I've already answered your questions - read the thread.
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    Iraq conflict: Canada to fly weapons to Kurdish forces battling ISIS - Politics - CBC News

    http://www.krg.org/a/d.aspx?l=12&a=51976

    Harper: ISIS like the Taliban | Fort Erie Times

    Canada is not a super power nor do we act like one. Canada did not get the US into Iraq a decade ago and even though Canada didn't support the invasion, Canada provided logistical and other resources in the Persian Gulf that assisted the US led forces in that effort. Canada has been an unwavering ally of the US, often even when it sees the US making boneheaded moves.

    Canada is also supporting the NATO efforts in Ukraine having already sent troops and fighter jets to Lithuania in preparation of defense of that country.

    Not sure I get the need of some in America to belittle the friends of America.
    ...nothing.

    Not belittling Canada, not really. I'm just wondering why you're so quick to call for U.S. military intervention using combat forces to deal with a terrorist threat you firmly believe needs to be dealt with, yet your country has never sent a single soldier to Iraq and likely won't do so now to deal with ISIS. But you expect an American President to do so and have the balls to condemn him when he doesn't.

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    NextEra is right: if you don't support sending Canadian troops into harm's way to help deal with ISIS, it's very hypocritical to demand that the US send more of its own.
    DITTO!

    I see the issue rather clearly, however. Unless it's a NATO-led initiative, Canada seems very content with remaining in a support role while it's southern neighbor leads from the front.

    Blame Canada, indeed...for being passive. But digress...

    There are reasons why Pres. Obama bent to the pressure to send U.S. combat troops back into Iraq. This article from HuffingtonPost.com outlines some of them.
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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily[W:20]

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    "If I were president, I would call a joint session of Congress. I would lay out the reasoning of why ISIS is a threat to our national security and seek congressional authorization to destroy ISIS militarily. [AP]"

    Rand paul the Neocon. That didn't take long. Well at least he didn't give a bribe like his dad.

    Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily' - The Week
    It's well known on this site that I am extremely anti globe trotting. However, Rand Paul is correct on this one. Do some research on these guy, look up their origins. They aren't a group of upstarts like Al Qaeda. Their roots go back to the 1800's. They have deep ties to the Saudis, however, they are seen as following a more stringent version of Wahhabism. These guys aren't your typical joke like these other dirt bag groups that pop up in the ME. Not trying to talk down to you. It just sounds like you aren't fully read in on who these guys are.
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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You're all over the map with your bitching about Rand Paul aren't you? So we can assume you won't be voting for him, and maybe hunting down the nearest Democrat that's available; hoping we'll sit around twiddling our thumbs while ISIS brings their cells in through Mexico. [...]
    The right wing echo chamber strikes again . . . strike fear into the hearts of the locals
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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily[W:20]

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    It's well known on this site that I am extremely anti globe trotting. However, Rand Paul is correct on this one. Do some research on these guy, look up their origins. They aren't a group of upstarts like Al Qaeda. Their roots go back to the 1800's. They have deep ties to the Saudis, however, they are seen as following a more stringent version of Wahhabism. These guys aren't your typical joke like these other dirt bag groups that pop up in the ME. Not trying to talk down to you. It just sounds like you aren't fully read in on who these guys are.
    I've done alittle research on this ISIS group as well, and you're right. They'd like nothing more than to bring back the days of the old Persian Empire and create an Islamic State all across the ME again. The solution to this problem is clear: Unless the Arab League gets involved, neither the U.S. nor NATO can really bring this issue to a close. That means, the Saudis, the UAE, Lebanon, Jordan, and Turkey must all get involved.
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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily[W:20]

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    [...] They have deep ties to the Saudis, however, they are seen as following a more stringent version of Wahhabism. [...]
    Where are you guys getting this propaganda?


    Saudi Arabia intensifies crackdown on extremist groups. Eighty eight people are arrested days after imam is jailed for glorifying al-Qaida and Isis

    Saudi Arabia intensifies crackdown on extremist groups | World news | The Guardian

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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily[W:20]

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Where are you guys getting this propaganda?
    You Can't Understand ISIS If You Don't Know the History of Wahhabism in Saudi Arabia*|*Alastair Crooke
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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily[W:20]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I've done alittle research on this ISIS group as well, and you're right. They'd like nothing more than to bring back the days of the old Persian Empire and create an Islamic State all across the ME again. The solution to this problem is clear: Unless the Arab League gets involved, neither the U.S. nor NATO can really bring this issue to a close. That means, the Saudis, the UAE, Lebanon, Jordan, and Turkey must all get involved.
    Well, that's not happening. With people such as these, violence is the course of action. They've already demonstrated they aren't the most civil of people. Lucky for us, the Saudi's would be on our side.
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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily[W:20]

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Where are you guys getting this propaganda?
    In addition, OBL believed in the exact same ideology ISIS does. We all know where he was from.
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    Re: Rand Paul: As president I would 'destroy ISIS militarily[W:20]

    I'll be blunt. Anyone calling Rand Paul a neoconservative doesn't know what a neoconservative is.
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