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    Re: Henry Kissinger on the Assembly of a New World Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Kissinger should have no credibility. He accomplished little and is responsible for the violent deaths of thousands, maybe millions...
    Détente, which paved the way for the end of the Cold War and the U.S. opening to China are seminal achievements that have long-lasting global implications. To say he accomplished "little" is to ignore both history and historical context. That the U.S. was involved in numerous conflicts related to the Cold War is a separate matter. The Vietnam War was launched far before Kissinger had any government role. Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge who were responsible for Cambodia's genocide were opposed by the U.S., not supported by it.

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    Re: Henry Kissinger on the Assembly of a New World Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Kissinger should have no credibility. He accomplished little and is responsible for the violent deaths of thousands, maybe millions.

    We can not impose order on the world. At best we can aim for a relatively peaceful and safe time. America does not have the right, ability or credibility to impose our sense of order on the rest of the world and attempts to do so will only create more violence and disorder. Besides defending ourselves, the best thing and only thing we should do militarilly is to try to reduce the amount of genocide. Developing an American culture that is a healthy and fair and sets a good example that others will want to follow is also a reasonable goal.
    Sure, all the Arab and Muslim countries will want to be like the US when we are fair and set good examples for the world. What naive baloney...
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    Re: Henry Kissinger on the Assembly of a New World Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Why? Maybe because Bush invaded the wrong country, ****ed it up and then went to clean brush up in Crawford, Texas.
    What about Obama's Arab Spring? Liberals don't seem to remember the violence Obama perpetuated in the ME, overturning secular rulers and allowing Islamists to infiltrate many of those countries. Now they want to instill Sharia law, declare caliphate and spread jihad across the world.

    Bush invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama has invaded most of the Middle East.

    Yep, great plan alright.
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    Re: Henry Kissinger on the Assembly of a New World Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    What about Obama's Arab Spring? Liberals don't seem to remember the violence Obama perpetuated in the ME, overturning secular rulers and allowing Islamists to infiltrate many of those countries. Now they want to instill Sharia law, declare caliphate and spread jihad across the world.

    Bush invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama has invaded most of the Middle East.

    Yep, great plan alright.
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    Re: Henry Kissinger on the Assembly of a New World Order

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    Henry Kissinger on the Assembly of a New World Order - WSJ



    Obama better get his **** together. He should be calling in some experienced people.
    If anyone knows about the New World Order it would be Kissinger. I hear he is a member of their inner circle.
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    Re: Henry Kissinger on the Assembly of a New World Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Amanda1858 View Post
    If anyone knows about the New World Order it would be Kissinger. I hear he is a member of their inner circle.
    That's quite amazing, do you have an evidence of this group or his membership?
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    Re: Henry Kissinger on the Assembly of a New World Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I'm not entirely convinced of that. I think the Arab Spring rally was over-exaggerated from interventionist liberals (of which Obama was mostly symbolically pandering to) and conservatives (who wanted to temporarily revive the reputation of the previous Bush administration), but in many regards, the U.S. is in this position because that's about all it wants to do and can do. It can neither entirely dismiss the last 10 years of military interventionism, nor the past 20-30 years of democratic internationalism, but it can't brazenly believe that its exceptional nature endows it with the power to reshape a region of the world without a liberal tradition from those it wishes to aid and reform. In many regards (though certainly not in all ways), a GOP presidency would resemble an Obama Presidency: stuck trying to maintain some semblance of what it sought to do in the past decade, but no longer willing to continue the march forward.
    He's the wrong man because he doesn't like foreign policy and doesn't want to deal with it. His primary objective is social justice within the US, and foreign policy stuff is of no interest. He came to office with no experience in it, and it wasn't part of his agenda.
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    Re: Henry Kissinger on the Assembly of a New World Order

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    He's the wrong man because he doesn't like foreign policy and doesn't want to deal with it. His primary objective is social justice within the US, and foreign policy stuff is of no interest. He came to office with no experience in it, and it wasn't part of his agenda.
    The only part foreign policy played in his agenda was to have the US back away. Which he told us he would do, and he has done - to our detriment. He did so in the Middle East, Europe, Africa, Central and South America. The only place he seems to be interested in, is Asia, and he's pissed off most of our Asian friends and enemies in the process. A rare accomplishment in foreign policy, if I do say so.
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