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    Re: Henry Kissinger on the Assembly of a New World Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I think you are headed in the right direction, but aren't completely seeing Kissinger's point. The U.S., like most countries in the "world order" are experiencing a paradox. It is this paradox that is undermining the established world order. The U.S.'s role in all of this is to reevaluate its position in the world, and determine what it can do, when, how, and to what end. This is a transitional presidency and a transitional geopolitical experience.
    I look forward to reading Kissinger's latest book. There's little doubt that the global political and economic structure has changed since the end of World War II and Cold War. There is also a lot more dynamism, not to mention complexities created by the proliferation of non-state actors, information revolution, etc. IMO, a clear conception of the national interest, need to devise a coherent foreign policy strategy, and role of contingency planning are arguably more important than ever. On the flip side, treating foreign policy as largely an ad hoc exercise is highly risky.

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    Re: Henry Kissinger on the Assembly of a New World Order

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    It is a humorously narrow view to think that Obama, or any American president, is capable of altering macro-historical forces by "calling in experienced people."

    I've got to agree that when I hear a President blamed or credited for an economy that was mostly built by preceeding policies and events, or a War, or even legislative decisions, it seems very narrow and naive. Most Presidents are juggled around like, bobble head dolls, frustratingly being bombarded with daily reports and more information than a super computer could process. No wonder they age so quickly being on call 24/7, and stressed out about national and global events on a daily basis.
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    Re: Henry Kissinger on the Assembly of a New World Order

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    Henry Kissinger on the Assembly of a New World Order - WSJ



    Obama better get his **** together. He should be calling in some experienced people.
    I do think the Administration could do better by leveraging the insights and experience of those who served the nation in the past. Certainly, relying on their insights could have, for example, tempered the runaway idealism that was exhibited during the outbreak of the "Arab Spring" uprisings. IMO, Kissinger had it right when he wrote in an August 5, 2012 op-ed on Syria that "On all sides of the Syrian conflict, the commitment of the belligerents to democratic values and alignment with Western interests is, at best, untested." Today, it's abundantly clear that Syria's conflict is a sectarian, not democratic one. Furthermore, the power vacuum it has created with the erosion of central governing authority has created fertile ground for ISIS, which it has exploited to create a self-declared caliphate that spans parts of Syria and Iraq.

    Finally, I was disheartened to read Roger Cohen's op-ed piece in The New York Times that stated:

    Clinton, in a two-page letter made available to me, went on to describe Holbrooke’s long diplomatic career — as a young foreign service officer in Vietnam; at the Paris Peace talks that led to the end of that conflict; as ambassador to Germany at a time of post-Cold War military transformation; as the diplomat who “brokered the historic Dayton Accords that brought the bloody war in the Balkans to a close”; and finally in “the most complex and vexing foreign and military policy challenge of our day” in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

    That last assignment was particularly “vexing” because Obama and Holbrooke never got along. The “no drama” president had little patience for high-drama Holbrooke. There was no significant place in the president’s young, tight-knit foreign policy team for this man of vast experience and sweeping insights. Holbrooke had backed Clinton during the 2008 Democratic Party primaries; his loyalty was questioned. In an extraordinary put-down, Obama took several staffers with him to Afghanistan in March, 2010, but not Holbrooke, his supposed point man.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/31/op...n-resolve.html

    It should be noted that Holbrooke was one of the senior American officials who were deeply wary of the United States' Karzai-centric strategy. Had the U.S. heeded his concerns, I suspect Afghanistan would be on a better trajectory today.

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    Re: Henry Kissinger on the Assembly of a New World Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    It is a humorously narrow view to think that Obama, or any American president, is capable of altering macro-historical forces by "calling in experienced people."
    Your opinion is duly disregarded, given the higher caliber opinions available in this thread.
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    Re: Henry Kissinger on the Assembly of a New World Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I think you are headed in the right direction, but aren't completely seeing Kissinger's point. The U.S., like most countries in the "world order" are experiencing a paradox. It is this paradox that is undermining the established world order. The U.S.'s role in all of this is to reevaluate its position in the world, and determine what it can do, when, how, and to what end. This is a transitional presidency and a transitional geopolitical experience.
    And we have the wrong man in the WH for this transition.
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    Re: Henry Kissinger on the Assembly of a New World Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I think you are headed in the right direction, but aren't completely seeing Kissinger's point. The U.S., like most countries in the "world order" are experiencing a paradox. It is this paradox that is undermining the established world order. The U.S.'s role in all of this is to reevaluate its position in the world, and determine what it can do, when, how, and to what end. This is a transitional presidency and a transitional geopolitical experience.
    Is the paradox based on Nations individual concerns are not aligned with global cooperation towards trade and peace?
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    Re: Henry Kissinger on the Assembly of a New World Order

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You may think so now until you see more of his "no strategy" foreign policy.
    Better than Bush's failed strategy.

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    Re: Henry Kissinger on the Assembly of a New World Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Better than Bush's failed strategy.
    Yeah, they're close to our borders now, Obama is doing a bangup job.
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    Re: Henry Kissinger on the Assembly of a New World Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Better than Bush's failed strategy.

    Why ?

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    Re: Henry Kissinger on the Assembly of a New World Order

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Why ?
    Why? Maybe because Bush invaded the wrong country, ****ed it up and then went to clean brush up in Crawford, Texas.

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