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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    How not to get tased:

    1: don't act like a douche to cops
    2: If asked for ID, show it
    To simple lol

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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Minnesota Taser video: Christopher Lollie of St. Paul Tased in front of children.




    Ummm... I dont get how people could just stand around and let a cop do that. People are ****in cowards. These 2 cops just 2v1'd a man for no reason. That means you can help the man and fight the cops until they hit the ground, pacify them. Who gives a **** if th ey have a badge if they break the law they get dealt with just like any other criminal. If a random guy and a girl assualt you in the street you would be allowed to beat the crap out of them until you are safe. Give those same 2 people a badge and now they have a pass to be ignoble?

    Assuming of course he did nothing wrong.
    Right at the beginning the officer said something like "what happened back there". So what happened back there? What occured prior to the video? What prompted this guy to start up his camera?
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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Then they should have taken him in. Yes he refused to show them ID, but that doesn't warrant the two cops ganging up on and assaulting him.
    Well, asking politely wasn't working and neither was asking impolitely so at some point I guess the cops just figured they were done asking. Mr. Lollie had every right to keep speaking his mind but he didn't have the right to keep obstructing the officers in their job.

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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Well, asking politely wasn't working and neither was asking impolitely so at some point I guess the cops just figured they were done asking
    So they decided that, instead of following procedure and taking him in, that they were going to gang up on him and assault him. And this is a quality within law enforcement that you are ok with?

    Mr. Lollie had every right to keep speaking his mind but he didn't have the right to keep obstructing the officers in their job.
    That's not the issue at hand here. You stated that the officers were well within their right to arrest him for obstruction. For the sake of argument I will take your word on that. If that is the case, then that's what they should have done. Assaulting the man was unnecessary.

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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    St. Paul police Chief Tom Smith says officers became violent with Lollie because they "believed he might either run or fight with them



    so they became violent...because he may run away?.. or because he may fight them......

    putting the cart before the horse there.
    He was "fleeing on foot". Anyone can see that from the video. When stopped by cop you cannot just walk away. You do not have the right to do that. You have to ask "am I free to go". If the cop says yes *then* you can walk away. If the cop says no then you are being detained, and while detained yes you do have to give your legal name and date of birth.

    Everyone should take a concealed weapon permit class so they know these things even if they hate guns and would never carry one.

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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    They could have found out who he was and what he was doing if he'd simply told them but instead he chose to go off on a "because I'm black" rant. He made his own bed in this one and the more I read about it the less sympathy I have for him.
    Yeah, the whole "because I'm black" thing is lame. Black people need to get over it already.

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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    So they decided that, instead of following procedure and taking him in, that they were going to gang up on him and assault him. And this is a quality within law enforcement that you are ok with?



    That's not the issue at hand here. You stated that the officers were well within their right to arrest him for obstruction. For the sake of argument I will take your word on that. If that is the case, then that's what they should have done. Assaulting the man was unnecessary.
    He was being uncooperative and combative. All he had to do was say that he wanted a lawyer and put his hands behind his back. If he was in the right and the cops were in the wrong he could then sue them for false arrest or whatever else he wanted to. Instead of doing that he chose to be belligerent. His choice.

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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Interestingly enough...during an interview he admits he initially recorded 22 minutes of video...ostebsibly showing his interactions with the security guards prior to the police showing up but that has been narrowed to 6+ minutes with no accounting of the earlier interactions. That might tell a different story.

    Its funny how its always the guys that 'know their rights' that end up getting tazed and a free ride to central booking. Had he said..."hi...yeah...I was a little snippy with the private security cuz he was a little snippy with me. Sorry...heres my ID...Im just waiting to pick up my kids" this whoooooooooooooole thing would have been avoided.

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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    They can detain you, but considering he was going to be sitting there for a while they could have easily found out who he was without doing anything towards him.
    But if we know anything, we know that cops love their toys. What good is a taser if you can't have some fun with it now and again?
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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Yeah, the whole "because I'm black" thing is lame. Black people need to get over it already.
    How exactly do they get over being black and knowing that because they're black, cops automatically assume they've done something wrong?
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