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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    How not to get tased:

    1: don't act like a douche to cops
    2: If asked for ID, show it
    Or the cops could just leave people alone.

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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    There was a thread related to this yesterday. Lollie was being an ass. I haven't seen any report of why the cops initially contacted him but the female cop asks him "what happened back there" so, obviously, there was something going on before the video starts. He also refuses to allow the female officer (who is being VERY patient and polite) to explain the situation.

    The only quarter I'll cut this jackass is that the second cop came in with an attitude and made a bad situation worse.
    Who cares? He has the right to be rude. Cops don't just gain the right to assault people because someone is being mean to them.

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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Who cares? He has the right to be rude. Cops don't just gain the right to assault people because someone is being mean to them.
    If he refuses to cooperate with the investigation they can take him in. It's called "obstruction" and every state I know of has a statute covering it.

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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Everyone involved acted inappropriately. There was no reason for the first officer to saunter up and demand ID of a citizen who was not breaking any laws, who was merely sitting in a public place waiting to pick up his kids.

    That said, there was no reason for him to refuse to provide ID when asked, unless he'd just walked over to get his kids and didn't bother to grab his wallet. There's no law against being in public without ID, by the way.

    The second officer was waaaay out of line. Tazing a guy who neither raised a voice or a hand or gave the slightest indication of running, who'd already explained where he was going and why, was nothing more than "I am THE MAN and you, serf, will kneel before me when ordered to do so."

    Bottom line, I'm on the citizen's side in this one.

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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Everyone involved acted inappropriately. There was no reason for the first officer to saunter up and demand ID of a citizen who was not breaking any laws, who was merely sitting in a public place waiting to pick up his kids.

    That said, there was no reason for him to refuse to provide ID when asked, unless he'd just walked over to get his kids and didn't bother to grab his wallet. There's no law against being in public without ID, by the way.

    The second officer was waaaay out of line. Tazing a guy who neither raised a voice or a hand or gave the slightest indication of running, who'd already explained where he was going and why, was nothing more than "I am THE MAN and you, serf, will kneel before me when ordered to do so."

    Bottom line, I'm on the citizen's side in this one.
    Just to note, he was not in a public area, he was in a restricted area of a public building.
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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Everyone involved acted inappropriately. There was no reason for the first officer to saunter up and demand ID of a citizen who was not breaking any laws, who was merely sitting in a public place waiting to pick up his kids.

    That said, there was no reason for him to refuse to provide ID when asked, unless he'd just walked over to get his kids and didn't bother to grab his wallet. There's no law against being in public without ID, by the way.

    The second officer was waaaay out of line. Tazing a guy who neither raised a voice or a hand or gave the slightest indication of running, who'd already explained where he was going and why, was nothing more than "I am THE MAN and you, serf, will kneel before me when ordered to do so."

    Bottom line, I'm on the citizen's side in this one.
    Part of the problem is that we don't know why he was contacted by the cops. I find it hard to believe that a cop just came up and asked him for ID...especially since she asked "what happened back there". We're only getting part of the story here.

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    Here's more information -
    Our officers were called by private security guards on a man who was trespassing in a private area. The guards reported that the man had on repeated occasions refused to leave a private "employees only" area in the First National Bank Building.

    With no information on who the man was, what he might be doing or why he refused to leave the area, responding Saint Paul police officers tried to talk to him, asking him who he was. He refused to tell them or cooperate.
    http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/story...-lollie-arrest

    The guy was somewhere he wasn't supposed to be and refused to leave or cooperate with authorities. That's textbook trespassing.

    If you don't want to get thumped by the cops don't be a jerk.
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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Just to note, he was not in a public area, he was in a restricted area of a public building.
    And that is a big difference- the man did not have some kind of inherent right to be there, though the officer probably could have handled and applied that fact better.

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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    If he refuses to cooperate with the investigation they can take him in. It's called "obstruction" and every state I know of has a statute covering it.
    They can detain you, but considering he was going to be sitting there for a while they could have easily found out who he was without doing anything towards him.

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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    They can detain you, but considering he was going to be sitting there for a while they could have easily found out who he was without doing anything towards him.
    They could have found out who he was and what he was doing if he'd simply told them but instead he chose to go off on a "because I'm black" rant. He made his own bed in this one and the more I read about it the less sympathy I have for him.

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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    They could have found out who he was and what he was doing if he'd simply told them but instead he chose to go off on a "because I'm black" rant. He made his own bed in this one and the more I read about it the less sympathy I have for him.
    Sure, but he didn't feel like helping them. All he wanted to do was wait for child and be left alone. That is it.

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