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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Word garble, eh?

    Everyone knows bully's are cowards. And the kids that stand behind the coward's shoulder?????
    It is about the reasoning. Bully's use violence or force to intimidate people for their personal gain. That is not what police officers do. They are enforcing the laws and trying to maintain public peace.

    The police officers in this situation could not simply allow a person to walk away when they need information from that person. They had a report of someone trespassing. It is their job to find out the information of the case. Why the guy was there when he was told not to be by a representative of the owner of the property (the security guard) and who he is was relevant to the situation. He refused to give that information. This is hindering a police investigation. Then he tried multiple times to simply leave when he was being detained by the police, further hindering the investigation of the complaint. It doesn't matter if his children or any children were there at the time. That is irrelevant to the situation.

    What is the definition of being detained by a police officer

    The officer has the authority to temporarily deny you the ability to leave while he investigates his suspicion. You may still refuse to answer any questions, but you have no right to leave. The officer must use a reasonable amount of time to investigate his suspicions until the detention elevates to the level of "probable cause" to arrest you. If the officer fails to determine there is probable cause for an Arrest, he must release you in a reasonable amount of time. The courts have determined that what is a reasonable amount of time is relative to the criminal activity being investigated. If you attempt to leave a detention without the permission of the police officer, you may be subject to Arrest.
    This is what happened. He was being detained by the police because they had a "reasonable suspicion" that a crime had occurred because they had gotten called by the security officer. This means that they had a right to investigate that "crime", including detaining the "suspect". He starting walking away and never asked if he could leave. He should not have felt free to leave since he was told not to several times by the police. Had he not continued to try to leave, then he wouldn't have been arrested. Had he then not resisted arrest, he would not have been tasered.
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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It is about the reasoning. Bully's use violence or force to intimidate people for their personal gain. That is not what police officers do. They are enforcing the laws and trying to maintain public peace.

    The police officers in this situation could not simply allow a person to walk away when they need information from that person. They had a report of someone trespassing. It is their job to find out the information of the case. Why the guy was there when he was told not to be by a representative of the owner of the property (the security guard) and who he is was relevant to the situation. He refused to give that information. This is hindering a police investigation. Then he tried multiple times to simply leave when he was being detained by the police, further hindering the investigation of the complaint. It doesn't matter if his children or any children were there at the time. That is irrelevant to the situation.

    What is the definition of being detained by a police officer



    This is what happened. He was being detained by the police because they had a "reasonable suspicion" that a crime had occurred because they had gotten called by the security officer. This means that they had a right to investigate that "crime", including detaining the "suspect". He starting walking away and never asked if he could leave. He should not have felt free to leave since he was told not to several times by the police. Had he not continued to try to leave, then he wouldn't have been arrested. Had he then not resisted arrest, he would not have been tasered.
    They never even stated he was detained. Dude just assualted him. Did the cop ask him to follow him so they could talk to both parties or did he burst assualt him on his own whim. He assaulted.
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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    You have a few options. Write your state representative. You can start a protest campaign and bring your situation into the public eye. You can move out of the state. All of these are much better then getting shot over something that really is not that big of a deal and can be handled in a more mature manner.
    I never consented to the police authority over my person. Anything they do towards my person is therefore a BIG deal. My choices are either be aggressed upon by others, or ummm..

    I don't know, do you know my other choices? Do I have any way to not be aggressed upon by police officers?

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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    This is what happened. He was being detained by the police because they had a "reasonable suspicion" that a crime had occurred because they had gotten called by the security officer. This means that they had a right to investigate that "crime", including detaining the "suspect". He starting walking away and never asked if he could leave. He should not have felt free to leave since he was told not to several times by the police. Had he not continued to try to leave, then he wouldn't have been arrested. Had he then not resisted arrest, he would not have been tasered.
    If they wanted him to leave from the start and then he decided to do it on his own I fail to see the problem. It seems to me he was doing as they asked.

    It seems kind of illogical to come in wanting him to leave and then change your position to wanting him to stay.

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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    They never even stated he was detained. Dude just assualted him. Did the cop ask him to follow him so they could talk to both parties or did he burst assualt him on his own whim. He assaulted.
    Don't have to. The fact that they were "asking" him not to leave means he was detained. They did not "just assault him". They were being civil to him and he was continually trying to leave. He was not free to go, yet he kept trying to leave. Then he resisted arrest. He refused to put his hands behind his back or cooperate. They can legally arrest you for trying to leave a legal detainment. And they have a right to legally detain someone involved in a complaint until they at least get the facts about the situation. Had he just stood there and waited for the police to talk to the security guard and check out the area, then likely nothing more would have happened. He likely would have been told he was free to go within minutes. Had something happened with him just waiting, he would have had a case. His actions destroy his case.
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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Don't have to. The fact that they were "asking" him not to leave means he was detained. They did not "just assault him". They were being civil to him and he was continually trying to leave. He was not free to go, yet he kept trying to leave. Then he resisted arrest. He refused to put his hands behind his back or cooperate. They can legally arrest you for trying to leave a legal detainment. And they have a right to legally detain someone involved in a complaint until they at least get the facts about the situation. Had he just stood there and waited for the police to talk to the security guard and check out the area, then likely nothing more would have happened. He likely would have been told he was free to go within minutes. Had something happened with him just waiting, he would have had a case. His actions destroy his case.
    I'm always free to go as I never consented to their authority. I have no reason to cooperate to their force, sorry. They want to issue force on others and then assault them they will get nothing from me.

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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    If they wanted him to leave from the start and then he decided to do it on his own I fail to see the problem. It seems to me he was doing as they asked.
    The police did not ask him to leave from the start. The security guard did. The police needed to get the information for why the guard called them in. It could have ended with them telling the guard that he had a right to be there. But instead of cooperating, he decided to refuse and cop an attitude toward them, including trying to leave while he was being detained.
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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I'm always free to go as I never consented to their authority.
    You're free to believe whatever you want, but that doesn't make it true.
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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You're free to believe whatever you want, but that doesn't make it true.
    I know what I consented to. Offer me proof otherwise.

    Offer me proof that I consented to Jim bob ex high school bully having authority over me for the rest of my life.

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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The police did not ask him to leave from the start. The security guard did. The police needed to get the information for why the guard called them in. It could have ended with them telling the guard that he had a right to be there. But instead of cooperating, he decided to refuse and cop an attitude toward them, including trying to leave while he was being detained.
    The problem was he was in an area he did not belong, so exactly what is wrong with him leaving? Because he failed to comply with the polices faux authority? Bleh.

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