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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Was Mr Lollie on school grounds?
    He was in a private employee only area of a bank and told multiple times to leave by the bank security. That is why the police were called. Then he refused to give his name or information to police despite having been in a private area of a bank, that he should have known was a private area because he was told multiple times, according to the bank, to leave.
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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    but jerry you engaged me I did not engage you..i comment on what the cops said...that's all I did.

    it is stupidity for the cops to say " we were "violent".......you would never use that word.....it means intent to harm., and what made it even worse is to say , it for someone running away.

    cops are always at a disadvantage, because they cannot use violence, unless it is used first on them.
    Violence does not mean intent to harm. Violence is merly the use of phisical force. The word does not regard intent, only behavior.

    Police even have to use an aproved martial art with aproved grappeling tecniqus designed to use phisical force while causeing little to no harm.

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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    He was in a private employee only area of a bank and told multiple times to leave by the bank security. That is why the police were called. Then he refused to give his name or information to police despite having been in a private area of a bank, that he should have known was a private area because he was told multiple times, according to the bank, to leave.
    Did the bank have signs up stating this? Are you sure he wasnt arguing this on his way out of the bank? I wonder what his side of the full story is.
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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Did the bank have signs up stating this?
    I don't believe so, which would excuse his original presence.

    The lack of a sign does not excuse refusing to leave when asked.

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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    St. Paul police Chief Tom Smith says officers became violent with Lollie because they "believed he might either run or fight with them



    so they became violent...because he may run away?.. or because he may fight them......

    putting the cart before the horse there.
    This is another bull crap excuse for officers using inappropriate force on a person who has given them no reason. All the officers should have done is tell the man that he needs to go somewhere else and these kids would have not have to witness their dad being tasered for no good reason whatsoever. The man had not given them any indication that he would flee with his kids standing right behind them (he was on his way to pick up these kids) and fighting them? Excuses, nothing more and nothing less to avoid getting sued for breaking a mans civil rights IMO.
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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Well, this is turning into a race war, so before the derail is irreparably complete, let me just add the following:

    The citizen repeatedly said he did not know he was in a private area, and repeatedly asked where the signs designating it as a private area were located. He received no answer.

    He repeatedly told the police he was just there to pick up his children, so the police were aware that if they assaulted/tazed him, his children would likely see it happen, and if they dragged him to the police station, his children would be left alone in the group of strange adults milling around, putting them in danger as well as having traumatized him by seeing their father tazed.

    The "crimes" he committed were clearly so heinous and the evidence against him was so overwhelming that the charges were dropped almost immediately.

    As I've said, in this case I'm on the citizen's side despite the fact that his own behavior was less than appropriate for the situation.
    He lied, or at least his story contradicts what the police were told by the security guards that made the complaint about him.

    As for being tazed in front of his children, so? He should have cooperated. I say it is his own fault he got tazed in front of his children because he refused to cooperate. He almost certainly knew he was not supposed to be in the area. If not, then why was he giving the police such a hard time? Why didn't he file a complaint against anyone, the police or the security for lying about him? Afterall, if the security guard(s) lied about asking him multiple times to leave a restricted area, especially before they called the cops, then that means they could be partially responsible for what happened to him.
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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Did the bank have signs up stating this? Are you sure he wasnt arguing this on his way out of the bank? I wonder what his side of the full story is.
    They don't need signs if they've told him multiple times not to be in that area. And a bank wouldn't be public property. The area outside the bank may be, but not the bank itself. What is his side? He's had months to tell his side. In fact, he could have easily filed a complaint in that time against anyone and everyone involved, particularly those security officers if they lied about asking him to leave a restricted/private/employee area.
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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    This is another bull crap excuse for officers using inappropriate force on a person who has given them no reason. All the officers should have done is tell the man that he needs to go somewhere else and these kids would have not have to witness their dad being tasered for no good reason whatsoever. The man had not given them any indication that he would flee with his kids standing right behind them (he was on his way to pick up these kids) and fighting them? Excuses, nothing more and nothing less to avoid getting sued for breaking a mans civil rights IMO.
    That's the perfect discription of the exact opposit of what happened.

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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    As for being tazed in front of his children, so? He should have cooperated. I say it is his own fault he got tazed in front of his children because he refused to cooperate.
    You can bet this isn't the first time his children have seen him act like a jackass.

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    Re: "I'm Not Your Brother," Officer tazes Man in Front of His Children.

    This is the copy of the police report of what happened.

    After arrest video goes viral, police defend officers' actions | Minnesota Public Radio News

    In one of the reports, the officers even asked the guy if they could call someone to pick up his kids for him, and he said "no, that's okay, they're not there yet". I am so frickin confused about the information this guy is putting out. Weren't his kids supposedly there, watching him get tased? If so, then wouldn't he need someone to take care of them? Or did that not happen?

    Watch: Black Man Reportedly Tased in Front of His Kids for Sitting in Public Space - The Root

    So, where were his kids and when exactly did he have to pick them up? Were they there, as he claimed, watching him get tased? If so, then why in the heck did he not want them to get someone to pick them up?
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